Re: Random chaff [was: more work for Grobbages]

2009-09-24 Thread grarpamp
I was thinking solely of taps capable of observing user1, user2... usern. If user1 injects 1.21 MB of data on one side, and 1.21 MB of data pops out the other side at injection time + network delay, the users are made. Regardless of whether the observer can see inside the network/crypto or

Re: Repeatedly changing unique exit nodes

2009-09-24 Thread László Monda
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:02:05AM +0200, László Monda wrote: I'd like to change exit nodes in every n secs in a way that I don't want the same exit node to be repeated within m secs. You want to do non-standard things

Re: [OT]RE: Unsubscribe

2009-09-24 Thread Alexander Cherepanov
Hi Roger! On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:34:19 -0400, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: I just hacked^Wconfigured majordomo to put a footer on every mail to the list. We'll see if it works. While you are at it maybe you can also fix something to eliminate duplicate mails in the list? Sometimes

Re: private vs. public tor network ... any other options ?

2009-09-24 Thread Flamsmark
On the other hand, I do control a fair amount of infrastructure and bandwidth in multiple locations ... so it's very tempting to leverage those resources in a way that gives me tor-like anonymity, but without the (sometimes terrible) speed and latency. If you limit yourself to a small set

Re: Random chaff [was: more work for Grobbages]

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:12:07AM -0700, Jon McLachlan wrote: *sigh* See below :) I did, but I don't get the sigh. On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Paul Syverson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:11:29AM -0400, Praedor Atrebates wrote: It would appear that the tor network should include

Re: private vs. public tor network ... any other options ?

2009-09-24 Thread David Jevans
We run a private Tor-based network. Email Steve (sms@) or I for questions. What we have contemplated is operating the exit nodes, and mixing into the public Tor network for either the middle or both middle and entry nodes. You could select high bandwidth middle-nodes for this, which would

Re: [OT]RE: Unsubscribe

2009-09-24 Thread Peter Pimley
grarpamp wrote: [...] they knew they had to find and use some special interface to subscribe. So why in the world would they think unsubscribing is any different having already learned the former. The thing is, sending a message like the one we saw does, practically always, achieve the

Re: private vs. public tor network ... any other options ?

2009-09-24 Thread John Case
Hello David, On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, David Jevans wrote: What we have contemplated is operating the exit nodes, and mixing into the public Tor network for either the middle or both middle and entry nodes. You could select high bandwidth middle-nodes for this, which would give you reasonably

Re: private vs. public tor network ... any other options ?

2009-09-24 Thread John Case
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Flamsmark wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Flamsmark wrote: If you limit yourself to a small set of nodes, you will definitely compromise your anonymity against a powerful attacker. But What would you (loosely) define as a small set of nodes vs. a large set of nodes ?

Some misc. exit node questions ...

2009-09-24 Thread John Case
First, am I to understand that this list is referring specifically to ISPs that allow exit nodes ? Presumably a relay node is not deteted and your ISP does not care ... https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/GoodBadISPs One problem with this list, however, is that it deals