Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Justin Aplin
On May 25, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: I don't know who "Censorship Research Center" might be, but they claim to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. However, they say it will be free software, but *not* be open source, so no one can examine

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 25 May 2010 03:30:34 -0400 Justin Aplin wrote: >On May 25, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> I don't know who "Censorship Research Center" might be, but they >> claim >> to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy >> service. >> However, they say

problem with bridges and a suggestion

2010-05-25 Thread t f
dear friends, problem: china is blocking TOR  more and more strict, I can't establish a TOR circuit even I updated bridges in config file of torrc with info retrieved from https://bridges.torproject.org and email replies from brid...@torproject.org. this morning, I got some new bridges through a h

Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, I set up a preliminary homepage at http://www.torservers.net/ For the original discussion ("Tor Exit Node Sponsorship, looking for partners") see http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/May-2010/msg00058.html Basically it comes down to: I want to run another high bandwidth Tor exit and I am loo

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Aplin, Justin M
On 5/25/2010 4:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: You may well be assuming too much. It's not easy to know at this point because it's still undocumented vaporware. I still think the whole thing smacks of being a honeypot for gullible humans. I'll admit I could be totally off base. But it's

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 25 May 2010 05:55:34 -0400 "Aplin, Justin M" wrote: >On 5/25/2010 4:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: >> You may well be assuming too much. It's not easy to know at this >> point because it's still undocumented vaporware. I still think the >> whole thing smacks of being a honeypot f

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Aplin, Justin M
On 5/25/2010 6:22 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: "Proprietary" means the client companies pay for it, right? Which means they are funding its development, right? Windows Server releases are closed source, right? And client companies install and use it, right? Now, none of that tells us "how ma

Re: problem with bridges and a suggestion

2010-05-25 Thread andrew
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:18:44PM +0800, for.tor.bri...@gmail.com wrote 1.3K bytes in 36 lines about: : china is blocking TOR  more and more strict, : I can't establish a TOR circuit even I updated bridges in config file : of torrc with info retrieved from https://bridges.torproject.org and : ema

RE: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread downie -
The Haystack developer was interviewed for the BBC documentary The Virtual Revolution - this episode I think: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2010/03/100301_the_virtual_revolution_part_two.shtml and see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8505645.stm GD

Re: When can I get TOR for mobile?

2010-05-25 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
Nathan Freitas wrote: > Sorry, there is no version of Tor available for that class of Java phone > currently. You need to upgrade to an Android, Windows Mobile, Nokia N900 or > iPhone device. > > On May 24, 2010, at 12:20 PM, emigrant wrote: > >> sony ericsson k530i > > ***

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Flamsmark
I seem to recall that something called haystack, with a remarkably similar webpage was the software and donations portal developed by @austinheap during the Iran election. Since Heap's twitter is still linked from the haystacknetworkcom page, I assume that this project remains the offspring of that

Tor on a Tablet (Android!)

2010-05-25 Thread Nathan Freitas
Here's a quick post with images of Orbot running on a 7" Android tablet: http://guardianproject.info/2010/05/25/tor-on-a-tablet/ This is a wifi-only device so it may be a better option for a truly secured Android solution, than something with a closed-source Qualcomm chipset in it. I plan to d

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:45 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > I don't know who "Censorship Research Center" might be, but they claim > to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. > However, they say it will be free software, but *not* be open source, so no > one can examine

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Olaf Selke
Ted Smith schrieb: > > I wonder if they'll sign the binary blobs they distribute; it would be > very easy for the police in any country to distribute their own > backdoored version (via sneakernet) and just arrest everyone who uses > it. I wonder why they're so exclusively focused on Iran. Their

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:28 +0200, Olaf Selke wrote: > Ted Smith schrieb: > > > > I wonder if they'll sign the binary blobs they distribute; it would be > > very easy for the police in any country to distribute their own > > backdoored version (via sneakernet) and just arrest everyone who uses > >

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:33:23 -0400 Ted Smith wrote: >On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:45 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: >> I don't know who "Censorship Research Center" might be, but they claim >> to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. >> However, they say it will be fr

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 14:36 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:33:23 -0400 Ted Smith > wrote: > >On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:45 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> I don't know who "Censorship Research Center" might be, but they claim > >> to have a development project going for anothe

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:01:43PM -0400, Ted Smith wrote: > > I couldn't figure > > out why the author, Kurt Knutson of WGN TV, was so taken in by something > > that > > isn't even available yet and about which there is so little publicly > > available > > information. > > > Maybe Tor Project

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Curious Kid
> Hi, I set up a preliminary homepage at > http://www.torservers.net/ Your use of the Tor name and logo (and style) is deceptive. Why did you make your disclaimer in fine print under the website? It looks like a copyright notice. Many people won't bother to read it. ***

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Curious Kid
> because it's still undocumented vaporware. I still think the whole > thing smacks of being a honeypot for gullible humans. They have gotten awesome news coverage in over a dozen big-name media outlets. http://www.censorshipresearch.org/press/ I wonder why that is. The whole project seems in

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Justin Aplin
On May 25, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Curious Kid wrote: Your use of the Tor name and logo (and style) is deceptive. Why did you make your disclaimer in fine print under the website? It looks like a copyright notice. Many people won't bother to read it. Should he have to? The only place I see Tor's

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Curious Kid
> > Your use of the > Tor name and logo (and style) is deceptive. Why did you make your disclaimer > in > fine print under the website? It looks like a copyright notice. Many people > won't bother to read it. Should he have to? The only place I see Tor's Yes, of course it should be obvious

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Aplin, Justin M
On 5/25/2010 7:39 PM, Curious Kid wrote: Yes, of course it should be obvious that it is not sponsored by The Tor Project. Maybe it's just me, then. I tend to assume that anything not on the official website isn't sponsored by the official project, unless they make a point of explicitly sa

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): > I set up a preliminary homepage at http://www.torservers.net/ > > For the original discussion ("Tor Exit Node Sponsorship, looking for > partners") see http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/May-2010/msg00058.html > > Basically it comes down to: I want

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, Your use of the Tor name and logo (and style) is deceptive. I take it you didn't see the favicon. Look again. Fair enough, that is a tad misleading. Yes, I have used the Tor logo in several places. For one, I am not a graphics designer. Secondly, I think my usage (it its context) is ne

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): > Let's look at what the Tor website has to say about its logo: > https://www.torproject.org/trademark-faq.html.en > > "If you're making non-commercial use of Tor software, you may also use > the Tor onion logo (as an illustration, not as a brand fo

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Mike, Thank you for your input. I agree with all you say, and to some degree it shows that it is yet unclear (from the site) what exactly I want to offer. I now think it might have been better to not make it public before getting that message transported, but I haven't published it anywher

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
Mike and Moritz, Would you both *please* stop posting each message to multiple lists? Thanks much. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Mike, "If you're making non-commercial use of Tor software, you may also use the Tor onion logo (as an illustration, not as a brand for your products)." One of the sticky issues with trademark protection though is that if you do not defend your mark in all applicable cases, you lose the righ

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Scott, >Mike and Moritz, > Would you both *please* stop posting each message to multiple >lists? >Thanks much. I have only posted the initial annoucement to both lists. -- Moritz Bartl GPG 0xED2E9B44 http://www.torservers.net/ *

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread Mike Perry
Cool Story, bro. Thus spake Scott Bennett (benn...@cs.niu.edu): > Mike and Moritz, > Would you both *please* stop posting each message to multiple lists? > Thanks much. -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs pgpwX5jpdIrXf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Tor Exit Node hosting: torservers.net

2010-05-25 Thread 屠申完美
Dear all, My tor have a error,this is the message log: [Warning] Problem bootstrapping. Stuck at 10%: Finishing handshake with directory server. (Socket is not connected [WSAENOTCONN ]; NOROUTE; count 4; recommendation warn) I have already set the bridges. pls help me,thanks.

Re: When can I get TOR for mobile?

2010-05-25 Thread andrew
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:59:48PM +, tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote 0.8K bytes in 18 lines about: : Does a Tor-version for WM exist? I thought that such tor-version didn't : exist. It doesn't exist in binary form. However, thanks to a volunteer, we just committed some code to support it

Re: When can I get TOR for mobile?

2010-05-25 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
and...@torproject.org wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:59:48PM +, tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote > 0.8K bytes in 18 lines about: > : Does a Tor-version for WM exist? I thought that such tor-version didn't > : exist. > > It doesn't exist in binary form. However, thanks to a volunteer,