TLS NPN (Next Protocol Negotiation)

2010-08-17 Thread Seth David Schoen
Over on the TLS WG mailing list at IETF there is some debate over the NPN (Next Protocol Negotation) TLS extension, which originated outside of TLS WG but is now starting to be brought up there for standardization. The thread starts at

Re: Tor Project 2008 Tax Return Now Online

2010-08-17 Thread Julie C
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.comwrote: This is neither fair nor reasonable. When Wikimedia broke into the top _10_ most popular sites, with something like 100 million unique viewers in a month the annual income was comparable to the tor project. It only

Re: Tor Project 2008 Tax Return Now Online

2010-08-17 Thread Robert Ransom
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:05:27 -0700 Julie C ju...@h-ck.ca wrote: But from an organizational, big picture view, I think it is clearly time for them to bring in some evangelical fundraisers to move the Project forward. There is a great base to build on. There is a great story to tell. But think

Re: Tor Project 2008 Tax Return Now Online

2010-08-17 Thread Robert Ransom
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:09:29 -0700 Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.com wrote: Also, remember that Tor's opponents would put much more effort into blocking Tor if it were heavily promoted in the Western media. (China and Iran are not Tor's only opponents -- here in the US, misguided

Re: Tor Project 2008 Tax Return Now Online

2010-08-17 Thread Julie C
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Robert Ransom rransom.8...@gmail.comwrote: What do you expect the Tor Project to do with zillions of dollars? Using donated funds to operate more relays, bridges, and exit nodes won't help much -- Tor nodes need to be dispersed among as many different

Re: TLS NPN (Next Protocol Negotiation)

2010-08-17 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Seth David Schoen (sch...@eff.org): Much of the debate centers around the idea that NPN will make it harder for network operators to know what protocols users are using over TLS and hence to block particular protocols while permitting others. One of the proponents (Adam Langley,

Re: Tor Project 2008 Tax Return Now Online

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Syverson
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:05:27AM -0700, Julie C wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.comwrote: This is neither fair nor reasonable. When Wikimedia broke into the top _10_ most popular sites, with something like 100 million unique viewers in a month

Tor nodes with idenitical names.

2010-08-17 Thread Matthew
If one goes to, for example, http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ one can see many nodes, all called Unnamed. How can such nodes be specifically referred to if one is using StrictExitNodes =1? Thanks.

Re: Tor nodes with idenitical names.

2010-08-17 Thread Flamsmark
On 17 August 2010 17:47, Matthew pump...@cotse.net wrote: How can... nodes be specifically referred to...? Refer to the nodes by their unique fingerprints;.

Re: TLS NPN (Next Protocol Negotiation)

2010-08-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Seth David Schoen sch...@eff.org wrote: [snip] I'm tempted to reply pointing out that _all_ uses of TLS represent at least potential support for a threat model in which a network operator is the adversary whom users are trying to defend against. So there's not

$keyid of my server

2010-08-17 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
Where I can find it for pointing out MyFamily in /etc/torrc ? I find only my node fingerprint. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body.

Re: $keyid of my server

2010-08-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:20:25 + Orionjur Tor-admin tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote: Where I can find it for pointing out MyFamily in /etc/torrc ? I find only my node fingerprint. That's your keyid, or look for the log message on start: [notice] Your Tor server's identity key fingerprint

Re: Tor Project 2008 Tax Return Now Online

2010-08-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:32:13 -0700 Julie C ju...@h-ck.ca wrote: First off, your enthusiasm and questioning our decisions is great and encouraged. Will you help us? The larger threat that I see is the Tor Project is absolutely ... dare I say it? ... PATHETIC AT MARKETING ITSELF. Yes, this is