[OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
I don't know who Censorship Research Center might be, but they claim to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. However, they say it will be free software, but *not* be open source, so no one can examine what they have done in order to look for bugs, design

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Justin Aplin
On May 25, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: I don't know who Censorship Research Center might be, but they claim to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. However, they say it will be free software, but *not* be open source, so no one can examine

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 25 May 2010 03:30:34 -0400 Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote: On May 25, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: I don't know who Censorship Research Center might be, but they claim to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. However, they

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Aplin, Justin M
On 5/25/2010 4:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: You may well be assuming too much. It's not easy to know at this point because it's still undocumented vaporware. I still think the whole thing smacks of being a honeypot for gullible humans. I'll admit I could be totally off base. But

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 25 May 2010 05:55:34 -0400 Aplin, Justin M jmap...@ufl.edu wrote: On 5/25/2010 4:59 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: You may well be assuming too much. It's not easy to know at this point because it's still undocumented vaporware. I still think the whole thing smacks of being a

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Aplin, Justin M
On 5/25/2010 6:22 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: Proprietary means the client companies pay for it, right? Which means they are funding its development, right? Windows Server releases are closed source, right? And client companies install and use it, right? Now, none of that tells us how many

RE: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread downie -
The Haystack developer was interviewed for the BBC documentary The Virtual Revolution - this episode I think: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2010/03/100301_the_virtual_revolution_part_two.shtml and see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8505645.stm GD

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Flamsmark
I seem to recall that something called haystack, with a remarkably similar webpage was the software and donations portal developed by @austinheap during the Iran election. Since Heap's twitter is still linked from the haystacknetworkcom page, I assume that this project remains the offspring of

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:45 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I don't know who Censorship Research Center might be, but they claim to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. However, they say it will be free software, but *not* be open source, so no one can examine what

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Olaf Selke
Ted Smith schrieb: I wonder if they'll sign the binary blobs they distribute; it would be very easy for the police in any country to distribute their own backdoored version (via sneakernet) and just arrest everyone who uses it. I wonder why they're so exclusively focused on Iran. Their

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:28 +0200, Olaf Selke wrote: Ted Smith schrieb: I wonder if they'll sign the binary blobs they distribute; it would be very easy for the police in any country to distribute their own backdoored version (via sneakernet) and just arrest everyone who uses it. I

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:33:23 -0400 Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:45 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I don't know who Censorship Research Center might be, but they claim to have a development project going for another encrypted proxy service. However, they say it

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 14:36 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:33:23 -0400 Ted Smith ted...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:45 -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I don't know who Censorship Research Center might be, but they claim to have a development project going for

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:01:43PM -0400, Ted Smith wrote: I couldn't figure out why the author, Kurt Knutson of WGN TV, was so taken in by something that isn't even available yet and about which there is so little publicly available information. Maybe Tor Project should talk

Re: [OT] another proxy, but not open source :-(

2010-05-25 Thread Curious Kid
because it's still undocumented vaporware. I still think the whole thing smacks of being a honeypot for gullible humans. They have gotten awesome news coverage in over a dozen big-name media outlets. http://www.censorshipresearch.org/press/ I wonder why that is. The whole project seems