Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 02:01:41PM +0200, anonym wrote: > In addition, Torbutton does all sorts of other stuff with Firefox that > otherwise could leak information or otherwise weaken anonymity. Right. This is important to remember -- using Tor without the new Torbutton can expose you to anonymity

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Marco Bonetti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ringo Kamens wrote: > Ok, so as long as I don't whitelist anything, those attacks are pretty > much nullified right? not true: NoScript has a default whitelist with popular domains like google.com or yahoo.com > What specifically gets disabled in Tor

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Ringo Kamens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Bonetti wrote: > Ringo Kamens wrote: >> So just to confirm, if I install TorButton, that's all the protection I >> need and I don't need to worry about NoScript? > define "protection that you need" :) > if you "just" want to browse the tor networ

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Marco Bonetti
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ringo Kamens wrote: > So just to confirm, if I install TorButton, that's all the protection I > need and I don't need to worry about NoScript? define "protection that you need" :) if you "just" want to browse the tor network leaving less traces behind

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Ringo Kamens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Bennett wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:57:42 +0200 sigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:17:57AM +0200, Karsten N. wrote: >>> Ringo Kamens schrieb: I'm working on a presentation where I teach people how to insta

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:57:42 +0200 sigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:17:57AM +0200, Karsten N. wrote: >> Ringo Kamens schrieb: >> > I'm working on a presentation where I teach people how to install Tor. I >> > have always heard it is best practice to use NoScript and

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread sigi
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:17:57AM +0200, Karsten N. wrote: > Ringo Kamens schrieb: > > I'm working on a presentation where I teach people how to install Tor. I > > have always heard it is best practice to use NoScript and TorButton, but > > TorButton automatically hooks "dangerous javascript". Is

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Marco Bonetti
On Mon, August 18, 2008 09:57, Marco Bonetti wrote: > What do you think? (maybe we should also invite Maone on this topic) I wrote to Maone about this issue, pointing him to the or-talk archives. He replied with some interesting ideas, I'll report them here: 1) user actions The user can enable/di

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread anonym
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/08/08 11:17, Karsten N. wrote: > NoScript blocks other "dangerous content" like Java applets, flash, > siverlight... too. And it discover cross site scripting. So I prefer > NoScript and FoxyProxy. Me too (FoxyProxy pattern matching rules!). I a

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Karsten N.
Ringo Kamens schrieb: > I'm working on a presentation where I teach people how to install Tor. I > have always heard it is best practice to use NoScript and TorButton, but > TorButton automatically hooks "dangerous javascript". Is there any > reason to have noscript installed after that? NoScript

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread Marco Bonetti
On Mon, August 18, 2008 09:32, anonym wrote: > So, you should _not_ use them together. That's a shame, though. This is something I was thinking about for some times now, thanks someone has bring it back up to my attention :) I completely agree with anonym: it's a shame. However I prefer having both

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread force44
For JS, Noscript is the top. I use Noscript and an old version of Torbutton (1.0.4.01) that perfectly does the job for what it is for: enable/disabble Tor. Newer versions of Torbutton made trouble with noscript.

Re: Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-18 Thread anonym
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/08/08 06:35, Ringo Kamens wrote: > I have always heard it is best practice to use NoScript and TorButton I've heard just the opposite. I suggest you read the section on which Firefox extensions to avoid in the Torbutton FAQ: https://www.torproj

Confusion about TorButton, Noscript, etc.

2008-08-17 Thread Ringo Kamens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm working on a presentation where I teach people how to install Tor. I have always heard it is best practice to use NoScript and TorButton, but TorButton automatically hooks "dangerous javascript". Is there any reason to have noscript installed after