Re: [tor] Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-14 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, On 13.06.2010 23:43, andrew wrote: Then of course he already mentioned a couple of times that he's not in the USA, so even if you were a lawyer he shouldn't take your advice ;) Right. I read the thread too. He is not, but his service and the underlying provider are in the USA. Thank

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-13 Thread andrew
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 05:54:41AM +0200, t...@wiredwings.com wrote 3.0K bytes in 57 lines about: : determine the ISP, in the Internet today it is trivial. Regardless of : that, in the end I am just an ISP. If they put so much work in finding You need to be very careful about calling yourself an

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-13 Thread andrew
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:38:09PM +0200, pipat...@gmail.com wrote 1.0K bytes in 19 lines about: : Then of course he already mentioned a couple of times that he's not in : the USA, so even if you were a lawyer he shouldn't take your advice ;) Right. I read the thread too. He is not, but his

Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, We are currently having a discussion over at torservers.net on whether it is wise to offer hidden service hosting. Most people don't have a server, they use free email or pay for cheap webhosting. The barrier to create hidden services is quite high. I feel that the Tor network could

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Marco Bonetti
On 12/giu/2010, at 12.49, Moritz Bartl t...@wiredwings.com wrote: The barrier to create hidden services is quite high. I'm not too sure about this: you can run hidden services on tor clients which do not relay any traffic for the network. Starting a service is not that difficult: an home flat

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, On 12.06.2010 13:13, Marco Bonetti wrote: On 12/giu/2010, at 12.49, Moritz Bartl t...@wiredwings.com wrote: The barrier to create hidden services is quite high. I'm not too sure about this: you can run hidden services on tor clients which do not relay any traffic for the network.

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Scott Bennett
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:15:47 +0200 Moritz Bartl t...@wiredwings.com wrote: On 12.06.2010 13:13, Marco Bonetti wrote: On 12/giu/2010, at 12.49, Moritz Bartl t...@wiredwings.com wrote: The barrier to create hidden services is quite high. I'm not too sure about this: you can run hidden

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Scott, On 12.06.2010 21:10, Scott Bennett wrote: That machine should be up 24/7, and you still need to maintain (ie. update) it. What a strange thing to say! How can you credibly claim to know the availability requirements for other persons' hidden services? I sorry you're right.

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 12.06.2010 22:15, Moritz Bartl wrote: I sorry you're right. LOL now that was a typo. :) *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): On 12.06.2010 13:13, Marco Bonetti wrote: On 12/giu/2010, at 12.49, Moritz Bartl t...@wiredwings.com wrote: The barrier to create hidden services is quite high. I'm not too sure about this: you can run hidden services on tor clients which do

Re: Hidden Services Hosting and DMCA

2010-06-12 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Mike, Thanks for your valuable input. What you are saying implicates that there might be forces interested in investigating what I am hosting. In a way, you need to compare it to any ISP hosting illegal content without knowledge. In the case of hidden services it might be harder to determine