Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-13 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:26:48PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote: All this aside, this is a very clever attack, and further evidence that we should more closely study capacity properties, reliability properties, queuing properties, and general balancing properties of the network. Right. We've

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-13 Thread krishna e bera
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:26:48PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote: 3. Based on my measurements last year, only the top ~5-10% nodes are capable of transmitting this much data in an individual stream, and only if all of the nodes in your path are from this set. Furthermore, as load balancing improves

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-12 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed this talk at the Security and Privacy Day from May 2008. While I understand that Tor's thread model does not defend against a GPA I am still curious what effect this attack can have against the current,

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-12 Thread gojosan
Hi, On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:46:56 -0700, F. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed this talk at the Security and Privacy Day from May 2008. While I understand that Tor's thread model does not defend against a

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-12 Thread scar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ 2008/06/12 21:22: Hi, How does one search the archives, via. some google trick? yes. you can use site:archives.seul.org/or/talk search terms -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-12 Thread Arrakis
So this attack is nothing to worry about? It is just FUD? Was it done on a private Tor network (as is my assumption)? If you read the slides, you will see it appears the nodes in the attack were real. Maybe they just named them that way for humor, however how funny is it that one of the nodes

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I just noticed this talk at the Security and Privacy Day from May 2008. While I understand that Tor's thread model does not defend against a GPA I am still curious what effect this attack can have against the current, real Tor network?

Re: SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-12 Thread gojosan
Hi, On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:48 -0700, Mike Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I just noticed this talk at the Security and Privacy Day from May 2008. While I understand that Tor's thread model does not defend against a GPA I am still

SPD talk: Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking Tor-like Anonymity Systems?

2008-06-11 Thread gojosan
I just noticed this talk at the Security and Privacy Day from May 2008. While I understand that Tor's thread model does not defend against a GPA I am still curious what effect this attack can have against the current, real Tor network? Simulating a Global Passive Adversary for Attacking