On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:05:00 -0600 (CST), "Scott Bennett"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:10:43 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
>
> >I agree. But here is what one judge in Colorado did to a juror who told
Agree that jury nullification is a right and should be exercised.
>
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:10:43 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
>I agree. But here is what one judge in Colorado did to a juror who told
Agree with what? Some context would help here.
>others about nullification:
>http://www.levellers.org/jrp/orig/jrp.natllawj.htm
>
>She was jailed for a p
I agree. But here is what one judge in Colorado did to a juror who told
others about nullification:
http://www.levellers.org/jrp/orig/jrp.natllawj.htm
She was jailed for a period of time and after a lengthy defense,
eventually release.
The question maybe we should be asking is not "what are the r
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:46:03 -0800 "F. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Andrew Del Vecchio wrote:
>> Mark,
>> In absentia was always there, it just wasn't SOP like it is now. BTW,
>> are you familiar with jury nullification? It was a victim of the last
>> round of substance prohibition in
Patrick Hooker wrote:
> Hi Mark, everyone,
(much snippage)
> While there are
> plenty of us who are still alert and doing what we can, the vast bulk
> of of US population reminds me of the sheep in Orwell's "Animal Farm".
> Concerning Tor and the Internet,I think it's extremely important that
> we
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Two words: Ron Paul 8-)
Patrick Hooker wrote:
>>
> As an US citizen and Tor user I fully agree with you Mark. I've been
> greatly saddened the past few years to see our constitutionally
> declared freedoms eroded away by a corrupt government. While
Hi Mark, everyone,
On Nov 26, 2007 5:01 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is this old tenet that frogs in water that is gradually heated
> don't notice they are being boiled alive. This is what is happening to
> America. The changes are not coming quickly or severely enough for our
> apathet
There is this old tenet that frogs in water that is gradually heated
don't notice they are being boiled alive. This is what is happening to
America. The changes are not coming quickly or severely enough for our
apathetic, somewhat stupid populace to be alarmed enough to do
something. Either that an
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Andrew Del Vecchio wrote:
> Mark,
> In absentia was always there, it just wasn't SOP like it is now. BTW,
> are you familiar with jury nullification? It was a victim of the last
> round of substance prohibition in the 20s and 30s. Essentially, ju
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Mark,
In absentia was always there, it just wasn't SOP like it is now. BTW,
are you familiar with jury nullification? It was a victim of the last
round of substance prohibition in the 20s and 30s. Essentially, jurors
have the (no longer honored
What would have happened if you had not accepted their plea agreement?
Used to be here in the USA they had to bring u personally to court to
try and convict you.
Now they are convicting "in abstencia" for many crimes.
Because the courts, judges and prosecutors are too incompetent or busy,
they ju
Original Message
From: Arrakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Subject: Re: court trial against me - the outcome
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:54:55 -0600
> I actually know of such a company that is interested in supplying to
Wilfred L. Guerin wrote:
> I am sincerely concerned about the following issue:
>
> "address and identity used are from the cow town next door"
>
> Please explain for us the failures of your tor implementation to
> properly mix and distribute the content, and why (moreso how) such an
> event occured
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:26:07 -0500 "Wilfred L. Guerin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> top-posted, so as to make it more difficult
to understand what he was referring to:
>I am sincerely concerned about the following issue:
>
>"address and identity used are from the cow town next door"
>
>Please explain
I am sincerely concerned about the following issue:
"address and identity used are from the cow town next door"
Please explain for us the failures of your tor implementation to
properly mix and distribute the content, and why (moreso how) such an
event occured?
I will assume at this point that a
"Mirko Thiesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > They offered me to dismiss the actual court trial according to
> > > paragraph 153 StPO which is not the same as an acquittal (no
> > > "Freispruch") which I eventually accepted.
> >
> > My German is not that fresh anymore, but it seems to say that
don't keep the knowledge for yourself :)
On Thursday 15 November 2007 22:54, Arrakis wrote:
> I actually know of such a company that is interested in supplying tor
> legal insurance in DE. Is anyone interested?
>
> Steve
>
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 07:55:12PM +, Robert Hogan wrote:
> Secondly, your case is proof, if proof were needed, that Tor is still a
> project without a rock-solid layman's analogy. Every Tor server operator that
> ends up explaining Tor to a non-technical or even just plain skeptical
> audie
Arrakis schrieb:
> I actually know of such a company that is interested in supplying tor
> legal insurance in DE. Is anyone interested?
Yes, I am.
Greets
--
BlueStar88
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I actually know of such a company that is interested in supplying tor
legal insurance in DE. Is anyone interested?
Steve
linux wrote:
> There is already a thread about this organization/fund.
> I am watching it carefully because I am interested.
>
> It looks for like like we need a legal costs i
There is already a thread about this organization/fund.
I am watching it carefully because I am interested.
It looks for like like we need a legal costs insurance
(Rechtschutzversicherung) for tor admins.
Gruesse
Robert
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 22:16, Robert Hogan wrote:
> On Wednesday 1
Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 schrieb Mirko Thiesen:
> > A judge found you guilty without hearing from you, nor summoning
> > you to a trial? That sounds like a ... dangerous procedure. Well,
> > I
>
> This is a common procedure here for smaller offenses. AFAIK it is
> often used if people appea
> A judge found you guilty without hearing from you, nor summoning you
> to a trial? That sounds like a ... dangerous procedure. Well, I
This is a common procedure here for smaller offenses. AFAIK it is often used
if people appeal to fines resulting of speed tickets and the like.
> suppose you co
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 20:47:50 you wrote:
>
> This country needs an revolution!
>
Maybe! ;)
In the meantime, solidarity among Tor operators would go a long way. If that
case had been for 100,000 euro you might now find yourself with a date in
court. Who would you turn to in such a situ
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 15:22, Mirko Thiesen wrote:
> Good morning,
Guten Abend,
I have also received such a letter some time ago but I went to the police and
explained. Of course you have to take care what you say and do not say too
much. The police tried to frighten me that "normally" t
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 14:22:29 Mirko Thiesen wrote:
> I
> asked "What about a postal service that delivers i.e. a bomb or a blackmail
> letter? Do they help people committing crimes as well?" They said that
> these two things could not be compared as a postal service offers
> transportation
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:22:29PM +0100, Mirko Thiesen wrote:
> In June the local police informed me about preliminary proceedings
> against me by asking me (by mail) to "visit" them. (...) but since I
> hadn't done anything I followed the general advice in such
> situations: You have the right t
Kafka and the Internet . . . perhaps you might turn this into an interactive
novella
On Nov 14, 2007 9:22 AM, Mirko Thiesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Good morning,
>
> I've been operating a Tor node (NetWorkXXIII) for quite some years now
> (although it was down for several months as it was
Thanks for continuing to fight for tor in Germany. You have all of our
support. Is there anything people outside Germany can do to help?
An injury to one is an injury to all,
Comrade Ringo Kamen
On Nov 14, 2007 10:43 AM, Mirko Thiesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hm, so I send a letter with a fa
> Hm, so I send a letter with a faked sender's address - what's that?
> How many letters get sent daily, which have been anonymized? I get
> letters with no sender's address at all - on the envelope. You never
> really know from where a letter came, even less now with the letter
> centers in Ge
Il 14/11/2007 15:22, Mirko Thiesen ha scritto:
> In June the local police informed me about preliminary proceedings against
> me by asking me (by mail) to "visit" them. The letter mentioned computer
> fraud (actually it was "Computerbetrug in Tateinheit mit Faelschung
> beweiserheblicher Daten gem
Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 schrieb Mirko Thiesen:
> Good morning,
>
> node. I asked "What about a postal service that delivers i.e. a
> bomb or a blackmail letter? Do they help people committing crimes
> as well?" They said that these two things could not be compared as
> a postal service offer
Hi Mirko,
that sounds... disastrous. I'm facing the same thing at the moment, a quite
similar case - although my lawyer currently tries to fight off an actual case
at court, pointing out all the other incidents I suffered of earlier.
This stinks. "Beihilfe" my a**.
BTW, I'm currently reading
htt
Good morning,
I've been operating a Tor node (NetWorkXXIII) for quite some years now
(although it was down for several months as it was facing repeated DDoS
attacks earlier this year).
In June the local police informed me about preliminary proceedings against
me by asking me (by mail) to "visit"
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