hidden service maps

2008-05-15 Thread Bradford X
Maps and GIS-related stuff is a hobby of mine, and I think there are a lot of good applications for google-maps-style stuff. Of course google will happily turn any info they have on you over. Does anything along the lines of gmaps exist in the tor network? Or a viable alternative? There are some a

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-15 Thread Kyle Williams
The idea of hidden services is that they are HIDDEN. A map of hidden services defeats the entire point. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Bradford X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maps and GIS-related stuff is a hobby of mine, and I think there are a > lot of good applications for google-maps-styl

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-16 Thread phobos
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 09:05:01PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 1.8K bytes in 38 lines about: : The idea of hidden services is that they are HIDDEN. : A map of hidden services defeats the entire point. What would be interesting is a social connections graph of hidden services. Which hidden ser

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-16 Thread Curious Kid
Kyle Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:A map of hidden services defeats the entire point. If such a thing could be made, it should be. Then fix the problems. I strongly encourage the original poster to try. If you succeed, you will be famous, my friend.

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-16 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 09:05:01PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 1.8K bytes > in 38 lines about: > : The idea of hidden services is that they are HIDDEN. > : A map of hidden services defeats the entire point. > > What wo

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-19 Thread Grant Heller
Forgive my ignorance but if they are hidden, how does one use them? Are they for the private use of the person deploying them? I've been a subscriber to this list for quite some time, have read a good bit of literature about TOR, but never have really gotten a good grasp of the hidden services.

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Wilhelm
They're hidden in the sense that their physical location is a secret. They can be listed on other hidden Tor services (or even on normal webpages) and accessed like normal, but there's theoretically no way to track down who exactly is providing the service (with the same set of guarantees as

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-19 Thread Grant Heller
Thank you for replying, Ben. Can (the concept of) a hidden service be simplified to that of any arbitrary protocol? Reconfigure an application to point to Tor instead of the Internet and if the hidden service exists, the application will communicate normally? On 5/19/08, Ben Wilhelm <[EMAIL PRO

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-19 Thread Ben Wilhelm
Grant Heller wrote: Thank you for replying, Ben. Can (the concept of) a hidden service be simplified to that of any arbitrary protocol? Reconfigure an application to point to Tor instead of the Internet and if the hidden service exists, the application will communicate normally? No prob.

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-19 Thread Grant Heller
Okay, that makes sense to me. Thank you for taking the time to explain. On 5/19/08, Ben Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Grant Heller wrote: > >> Thank you for replying, Ben. >> Can (the concept of) a hidden service be simplified to that of any >> arbitrary protocol? Reconfigure an applic

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-20 Thread F. Fox
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Ben Wilhelm wrote: (snip) > It would presumably be possible to rig up some kind of wacky system that > mapped private IPs to onion addresses on the fly, but Tor doesn't have > that yet (and I don't know if they've even bothered considering > implemen

Re: hidden service maps

2008-05-31 Thread Bradford X
On 5/16/08, Kyle Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The idea of hidden services is that they are HIDDEN. > A map of hidden services defeats the entire point. Hm yes, thanks for that. I appreciate all the responses. Unfortunately they're responding to a question I didn't ask. I'll try to cla

Re: hidden service maps

2008-06-01 Thread Dave Page
On Sunday 01 June 2008 04:21, Bradford X wrote: > Does anything like google maps exist as a hidden service? Or > something similar, not necessarily as a hidden service, but that > doesn't come with the privacy implications of gmaps? Have you seen OpenStreetMap [1]? They provide a repository of p