Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-29 Thread Fabian Keil
"Anthony DiPierro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/28/07, Fabian Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Anthony DiPierro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That brings up an idea, though. Are there certain common perfectly > > > legitimate things that exit nodes are being used for, that maybe

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-28 Thread Anthony DiPierro
On 1/27/07, Seth David Schoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anthony DiPierro writes: > Or what about a hidden service for reading web pages in general? > Something which doesn't support POST (or maybe even GET), so is much > less likely to be used abusively. Is this feasible? The current director

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-28 Thread Anthony DiPierro
On 1/28/07, Fabian Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Anthony DiPierro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That brings up an idea, though. Are there certain common perfectly > legitimate things that exit nodes are being used for, that maybe some > hidden services could be set up to take the load off?

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 04:05:58PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote: > I think it would be interesting to know if any single person > in Germany got more than one letter, or first a letter for one > investigation and than a personal visit for another one. Anecdotally, the complaint rate with Tor is typic

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-28 Thread Fabian Keil
"Anthony DiPierro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That brings up an idea, though. Are there certain common perfectly > legitimate things that exit nodes are being used for, that maybe some > hidden services could be set up to take the load off? I guess the most obvious and perfectly legitimate thi

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-28 Thread Fabian Keil
Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:12:01AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Perhaps someone could draft a generic response letter to be sent to > > law enforcement if a server operator is contact and post it online or > > even include it in the package. > > I

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-28 Thread Seth David Schoen
Seth David Schoen writes: > Anthony DiPierro writes: > > > Or what about a hidden service for reading web pages in general? > > Something which doesn't support POST (or maybe even GET), so is much > > less likely to be used abusively. Is this feasible? > > The current directory scheme does allo

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-27 Thread Seth David Schoen
Anthony DiPierro writes: > Or what about a hidden service for reading web pages in general? > Something which doesn't support POST (or maybe even GET), so is much > less likely to be used abusively. Is this feasible? The current directory scheme does allow (in fact, requires) policies to be spec

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-27 Thread Anthony DiPierro
On 1/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Problem still exists though, that Tor needs more exit nodes. If nobody is willing to run an exit server the performance of the network suffers dramatically. If *nobody* is willing to run an exit server the performance drops to zero (at l

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:12:01AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Problem still exists though, that Tor needs more exit nodes. If nobody is You can buy a fast exit server, and choose it as your default exit. You can also build a private Tor network, and limit it to paying customers. (I'm welc

Not enough exit nodes? (was Re: more letters from the feds)

2007-01-27 Thread Jay Goodman Tamboli
On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem still exists though, that Tor needs more exit nodes. If nobody is willing to run an exit server the performance of the network suffers dramatically. I personally find the performance of the network to be almost unusable, so I choo

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-27 Thread patgus
Problem still exists though, that Tor needs more exit nodes. If nobody is willing to run an exit server the performance of the network suffers dramatically. I personally find the performance of the network to be almost unusable, so I choose other pay-for anonymity services. This is not a bash of T

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread phobos
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:24:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 1.9K bytes in 51 lines about: : Yeah I read that but I can't find any option for that in Vidalia, was : it integrated into Vidalia yet or just in Tor? Sadly, I don't know how : to set options for Tor without Vidalia. ;) It

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread Enigma
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah I read that but I can't find any option for that in Vidalia, was it integrated into Vidalia yet or just in Tor? Sadly, I don't know how to set options for Tor without Vidalia. ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:22:08PM +0

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread phobos
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:22:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 2.0K bytes in 54 lines about: : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- : Hash: SHA1 : : Well, but that limit only respects the INcoming traffic. I never : understood why one can't set a limit for OUTgoing traffic and that is

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread Michael Holstein
However, I don't know what that -HUP is about. man signal (-HUP is 'hangup' .. )

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread Enigma
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, but that limit only respects the INcoming traffic. I never understood why one can't set a limit for OUTgoing traffic and that is a big problem. However, I don't know what that -HUP is about. But it sounds like something Vidalia users can't use m

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread Ringo Kamens
It might be easier for you to have the tor traffic routed through a gateway machine and have it limit bandwidth. On 1/11/07, gabrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: xiando wrote: >> I think this is a valid point. I ran an exit-node for a short while at home >> without thinking too much about it. The h

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread gabrix
xiando wrote: >> I think this is a valid point. I ran an exit-node for a short while at home >> without thinking too much about it. The huge amount of traffic I was >> attracting (even within minutes of booting up) made me shut it off for the >> sake of personal convenience, but I don't think I wil

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread Ben Wilhelm
xiando wrote: I think this is a valid point. I ran an exit-node for a short while at home without thinking too much about it. The huge amount of traffic I was attracting (even within minutes of booting up) made me shut it off for the sake of personal convenience, but I don't think I will ever go

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-11 Thread xiando
> I think this is a valid point. I ran an exit-node for a short while at home > without thinking too much about it. The huge amount of traffic I was > attracting (even within minutes of booting up) made me shut it off for the > sake of personal convenience, but I don't think I will ever go back -

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-10 Thread phobos
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 08:28:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 2.0K bytes in 43 lines about: : These days I generally run a middle-man node but even that has started to feel : inappropriate for home use. I would be amazed if regular appearances on : directory servers does not blink wildly on

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-10 Thread Ringo Kamens
The only advantage to running a an exit-server at home would be increased anonymity because you could always say "a tor user did it". Also, I think running middleman servers does expose you to more scrutiny since the government doesn't like tor or encrypted traffic of any kind however I don't thin

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-10 Thread Ben Wilhelm
Robert Hogan wrote: * From a common-sense, peace-of-mind point of view, is running an exit-node strictly for co-located servers? Does anyone here run one at home? If so, have you had second thoughts? I run one at home, but it's on a dedicated IP, within a virtual machine. I wouldn't want t

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Hogan
On Monday 08 January 2007 11:42, Alexander Janssen wrote: > And it also should be pointed out omce again that it would be a rather > stupid idea to run a TOR exit-node at home, for a dynamic IP-address > is blinking wildly on their radar. The possible consequences are left > up to your imagination.

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-08 Thread Matej Kovacic
Hi, I'm really sorry to hear about the persecution over there. This certainly does seem like a campaign against tor. It's important to remember that although it may seem like an us vs them situation, we A few days ago I was surfing at our government's website and found something about electronic

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-08 Thread Ringo Kamens
I'm really sorry to hear about the persecution over there. This certainly does seem like a campaign against tor. It's important to remember that although it may seem like an us vs them situation, we need to work together and band together to not only defeat the campaign but to make progress. Solid

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-08 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 12:18:10PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Is this isn't an active discouragement campaign, it certainly > feels that way. At 23C3, I spoke to several people who told me about chats with law enforcement where a German fed was intentionally bothering Tor operators with the goal

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-08 Thread Alexander Janssen
Hi Eugen, On 1/8/07, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 12:18:10PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Is this isn't an active discouragement campaign, it certainly > feels that way. Not necessarily; if the BKA gets aware of a crime, they *must* investigate (see also ยง 258a

Re: more letters from the feds

2007-01-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 12:18:10PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > Have gotten a facsimile with similiar content as > http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Jan-2007/msg00051.html > today (router redgene, end of contract 2006.12.12, possibly > seized at the hoster several days before contract > terminatio

more letters from the feds

2007-01-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
Have gotten a facsimile with similiar content as http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Jan-2007/msg00051.html today (router redgene, end of contract 2006.12.12, possibly seized at the hoster several days before contract termination since unavailable, hoster didn't reply to the trouble tickets I posted