RE: Database using 100% of CPU

2001-08-18 Thread H elp_me
Hi, Check whether SMON is active ? What is your tablespace status ? Fragmented ? If yes, SMON would be trying to coalesce. Check for the PCTINCREASE at the tablespace level ... if it is greater than 0.. you will have to let SMON clear the fragmentation at tablespace level. EVEN if you shutdown and

8.1.7.2.1 for NT is out

2001-08-18 Thread Paul Drake
Greetings, insomniacs and readers in other time zones. For those of you trying to get bugs resolved, a new patch set might contain your fix. 8.1.7.2.1 for NT is out - 100MB - and here's my rebuild script so far ... Paul (Yes, I *have* to apply every patch set as soon as it comes out) importa

Re: Using triggers for data validation

2001-08-18 Thread Jonathan Lewis
I think Steve is probably a little more precise in his statement. But there are definitely cases where using before-row triggers is more expensive that using after-row triggers to do the same job. The cost appears as extra current mode gets and redo log generation. Thomas Kyte has a demonstratio

RE: Q about Oracle Optimizer

2001-08-18 Thread A. Bardeen
That's true provided you're not using any of the new features introduced in 8.0, and later versions, that automatically cause the CBO to be used (e.g. partitioning, degree or instances > 1, IOT, etc...) When in doubt, I always check metalink note: 66484.1. HTH, -- Anita --- Jon Walthour <[EMAI

Re: Ways to improve speediness of truncate, drop, coalesce

2001-08-18 Thread A. Bardeen
Jay, The size of the buffer cache and the number of DB_WRITER_PROCESSES has a big impact on the time it takes to truncate a table. Each DBWR process has to scan its portion of the buffer cache to flush any blocks belonging to the truncated table or its indexes. This is a sequential process as o

Re: Substitute for Materialized Views/Snapshots?

2001-08-18 Thread A. Bardeen
Chris, I'm confused by your statement "there is no materialized view functionality for SE" as this is completely incorrect. Read-only snapshots (called materialized views in 8i) have ALWAYS been available with Standard Edition (well, at least since 7.3) as they're considered Basic Replication.

RE: Q about Oracle Optimizer

2001-08-18 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
IMHO,Problem in this situation is that ,in 7.3.4 ,if I am not wrong ,thier optimizer must be RULE as default and after migration if optimizer is not explicitly set as RULE , default optimizer in 8.1.6 is CHOOSE. This is the reason their objects never analyzed in 7.3.4 or now in 8.1.6. If optimi

Re: Ways to improve speediness of truncate, drop, coalesce

2001-08-18 Thread Jonathan Lewis
That's an interesting thought, but why do you think that only one DBWR process can scan at a time ? If you have multiple working data sets, surely you can have one dbwr process per working data set doing the scanning. After all, each working data set has its own 'range reuse' list (or should that

RE: Q about Oracle Optimizer

2001-08-18 Thread A. Bardeen
Mohammad, For this particular case you're probably correct. What I was attempting to explain, and not doing very well, was that the absence of statistics does NOT mean the RBO will ALWAYS be used. Many people don't realize this and assume that because they have OPTIMIZER_MODE = RULE that they w

Re: Recovering WITHOUT tablespaces

2001-08-18 Thread A. Bardeen
Kumanan, Yes, you can easily do this as long as you have the datafiles for the system tablespace and the datafiles for any RBS tablespaces used by online RBS's. This procedure is documented in metalink note: 96197.1 "Recovering a Dropped Table from a Full Database Backup" The recovery process w

Re: Ways to improve speediness of truncate, drop, coalesce

2001-08-18 Thread A. Bardeen
Jonathan, I believe it's to prevent other DBWR processes from attempting to modify blocks belonging to the truncated object until all of them have had a chance to flush the blocks, but I honestly don't remember all the details. I'll dig up my notes when I'm back in the office and post them to th

RE: N093_NT1.TXT [4 of 4]

2001-08-18 Thread Norwood Bradly A
Eric: Thanks for the attachment. Do you have 3 of 4 and 2 of 4? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 4 of 4 10K -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL

RE: Q about Oracle Optimizer

2001-08-18 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Anita, You are 100% right for your explanation. I observed that behaviour just last week when we migrated our second production database from 7.3.4.5 to 8.1.6.2 and my colleague forgot to define optimizer as rule in our new init.ora file and resultantly optimizer became CHOOSE and from very ne

RE: Please Help - ora error

2001-08-18 Thread Jon Walthour
Alex: This is a fallacy that's been around since Oracle 6. In actuality, one wants to set the initial and next extents of a temporary tablespace to the same size as the size of the average sort in memory to ensure that most disk sorts can be accommodated within a single temporary tablespace exten

testing patch set 8.1.7.2.1 today

2001-08-18 Thread Paul Drake
Anita, As you might have guessed from my poast earlier on the ORACLE-L, I applied the 8.1.7.2.1 patch set to the 81715 EE server last night (this morning). It had no effect - still receieved the same ORA-00600. I even set compatible=8.1.7.2.0 and bounced - no effect. I was working from home yest

RE: How to find maximum number of concurrent sorts from instance star

2001-08-18 Thread Jon Walthour
To find the maximum number of concurrent sorts from instance start, run the following query: SELECT LEAST(disk_sorts, peak) AS peak_concurrent FROM (SELECT VALUE AS disk_sorts FROM sys.v_$sysstat WHERE name = 'sorts (disk)') , (SELECT /*+ ordered */ SUM(l.

Re: Comment on 'Practical Oracle 8i'

2001-08-18 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 17 August 2001 07:36, Kevin Lange wrote: > I have been collecting commodores and Apples for a while to keep in my own > PC museum. I have been looking for a good working TRS-80. Too bad I divested myself of most of my Radio Shack computers. Model 16 running Xenix Model 3 with 48k

Re: Index space not freed when rows deleted?

2001-08-18 Thread Jared Still
Jay, Index blocks can be reused, but unlike a table block, they are not reused until *all* data is removed from the block. So if you remove most rows, it won't help if most blocks still have a pointer to a row. Jared On Wednesday 15 August 2001 13:48, Miller, Jay wrote: > I'm puzzled. > We h

Re: linux for oracle

2001-08-18 Thread Jared Still
Having used RedHat, Slackware, Mandrake, SuSE and others, my vote goes for SuSE. Excellent distribution, good installation and admin utilities, certified for Oracle also. Jared On Friday 17 August 2001 05:23, Rao, UmaSankara S (CAP) wrote: > Hi Gurus, > > Can u please tell me the most stable v

Re: perl dump

2001-08-18 Thread Jared Still
let's see your script. Jared On Wednesday 15 August 2001 17:35, David Turner wrote: > I was wondering how most people handle linefeeds in columns. My first > shot at a perl dump script left one of my files with multiple lines per > record because there we linefeeds in one of the columns. > > Ho

slick looking website - VOUG - Portal

2001-08-18 Thread Paul Drake
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RE: but will it run windows?

2001-08-18 Thread Ron Thomas
What is interesting and not surprising is that for all the sites listed with the longest average running uptime, not one of them use Microsoft. Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Either lead by example, or become a terrible warning"

Help: truncate lasting 2+ hours

2001-08-18 Thread Troiano, Paul (CAP, GEFA)
I have a 12.5 million row table for which a truncate has been running for >2hrs. What can cause this? (Solaris 2.6, Oracle 8.1.7) Thanks in advance, - Paul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Troiano, Paul (CAP, GEFA) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City