RE: dware/materialized views/nulls/defaults - Gurus help

2002-07-31 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: using stored procedures from pro*c Okay guys after feeling like a purist and that NULLS should not be stuffed with values just because - because of course maybe slight performance issue, also is it really the same meaning? and wanting easy way to build in consi

RE: UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with # - THEY'RE GONE

2002-07-31 Thread Ross Collado
Ahhh. So many ways of doing it. Thanks to all who replied and those who attempted to. Cheers, Ross > -Original Message- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 15:38 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: UNIX Q: How do I delete

Re: Guys: Is this worth $1,749 for 8 year Oracle veteran DBA

2002-07-31 Thread ltiu
Unfortunately, MS SQL Server's GUI tools are better in that it is actually useful and it works. How come? Most of my younger peers prefer to use SQL Server (never mind it's shortcomings) simply because it's more GUI than Oracle - hence easier Oracle is losing the future here by screwi

RE: UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with #

2002-07-31 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)
Y'know, if it were me, I'd do... rm -i '#Column' ... This way I get to say yea or nay to each file, and there are no rude surprises when I'm done. Just my 2¢ worth... Mike -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L rm '#Colum

Check who is coming to Charlotte!! NC

2002-07-31 Thread Murali Vallath
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Re: UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with #

2002-07-31 Thread Mladen Gogala
rm -f \#* will do the trick. On 2002.08.01 00:33 Ross Collado wrote: > Hi, > I have files like: > #Column > #This > # > > How do I get rid of these 3? > > Rgds, > Ross > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Ross Collado > INET: [EMAIL PROT

Re: d/w for a central bank

2002-07-31 Thread Mladen Gogala
Now, that sounds like a very serious design business. My advice would be to contact some of the top names in the IT world, like Dr. James Martin. On 2002.08.01 00:53 Rahul wrote: > list, i have been assigned the job of documenting the scope for a data > warehouse > for a central bank !! the prob

RE: Guys: Is this worth $1,749 for 8 year Oracle veteran DBA

2002-07-31 Thread Straub, Dan
Title: RE: Guys: Is this worth $1,749 for 8 year Oracle veteran DBA You're on target there. Don't start. It's not just a job it's an adventure. I must say that I used the DBCA twice. After cleaning up the mess it made the first time, I just had it create the scripts for me. After 'fixin

RE: UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with #

2002-07-31 Thread Cary Millsap
rm '#Column' '#This' '#' Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - NCOAUG Training Day, Aug 16 Chicago - Miracle Database Forum, Sep 20-22 Middlefart Denmark - 2003 Hotsos Symposium on OracleR System Performance, Feb 9-12 Dallas -Original Mess

Re: UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with #

2002-07-31 Thread lembark
-- Ross Collado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/31/02 20:33:22 -0800 > Hi, > I have files like: ># Column ># This ># > > How do I get rid of these 3? escape/quote the char's: rm -f "./# Column"; or, if you use bash, the tab key is rather helpful for this. simplest fix may be to: cd

Re: UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with #

2002-07-31 Thread Peter . McLarty
I assume that you are talking about Unix is so the use rm "#Column" to get rid of it Cheers -- = Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical ConsultantWWW: http://www.mincom.com APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0

d/w for a central bank

2002-07-31 Thread Rahul
list, i have been assigned the job of documenting the scope for a data warehouse for a central bank !! the problem is.. that none of us (including the IT devision of the bank) has any idea on what kind of "things" to include !!! i would appreciate inputs (off-list) from anyone who has experie

UNIX Q: How do I delete files beginning with #

2002-07-31 Thread Ross Collado
Hi, I have files like: #Column #This # How do I get rid of these 3? Rgds, Ross -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ross Collado INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California

Re: Guys: Is this worth $1,749 for 8 year Oracle veteran DBA

2002-07-31 Thread Don Granaman
Unfortunately, we have no choice but to use the java-infested, half-baked ruinStaller. Don't even get me started about the DataBase Cremation Assistant! Don Granaman [OraSaurus] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread ltiu
Are you are implying that India can't be better? ltiu On Wednesday 31 July 2002 20:13, Jos Someone wrote: > Based on the services we got from Oracle Support there, I can't imagine > what the Oracle software will be like if they move the development over > there Ray Stell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Jos Someone
Based on the services we got from Oracle Support there, I can't imagine what the Oracle software will be like if they move the development over there   Ray Stell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heard on the BBC radio at lunch that Oracle Corp. is moving alot ofoperations to India, 1800 new jobs.

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Henry Poras
Bring on the IWW (Wobblies). Solidarity forever. Henry - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:55 PM > > I would not treat this snip of news in such a light-hearted manner. > Comparing to couple of years ago, t

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Rachel Carmichael
as a knitter, trust me, take up some other line of work! you aren't gonna make money on handknit goods --- "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've already bought a set of knitting needles. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Weaver, Walt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent

RE: MS win2k SP3 available

2002-07-31 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
>-Isn't that an admin's dream? Having all desktops and servers administer themselves? My dumn ass NT admins don't need this, they are worthless all by themselves. I have been asking for two weeks now to get a job scheduler software loaded to replace the crappy 'AT' program for my backup and m

Re: using stored procedures from pro*c

2002-07-31 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: using stored procedures from pro*c It is meaningless.  PL/SQL blocks handle their own cursors within a single cursor employed by PRO*C, so the contents of "sqlca.sqlerrd[2]" are likely leftover from a previous call?  You may have gotten the value you wanted in one version, but I wouldn

RE: Oracle Heterogenous Services

2002-07-31 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
And for technical info on setup of Heterogeneous services try the following: I found note 114820.1 helpful - "QUICK START GUIDE: WIN NT - Generic Connectivity using ODBC" Also note 109730.1 - How to setup generic connectivity (Heterogeneous Services) for Windows NT Also note-107227.1 setup an

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
He speaks the language of corporate America, bull sh*t. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is Larry Ellison learning how to speak Hindi? > -Original Message- > From: Ray Stell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Senthil Rajamanickam
I do not know how many of you actually work for Oracle, but for others (Developers who use Oracle Technology) this I do not think is immediate cause for concern. There is no way a team half the world away can solve the business problems of a company in the US byt creating IT solutions. Oracle's m

RE: Oracle Heterogenous Services

2002-07-31 Thread Babu . Nagarajan
I think I am jumping into this thread a bit late. Take a look at http://www.unixodbc.com for some good info on ODBC on Unix. I am not sure where to get Oracle ODC drivers for Unix. Try installing a Unix client and see if it comes along with it... Babu Robertson Lee - lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread sundeep maini
If you attend a database class in school they will tell you table names are always plural. Each row in a table represents one instance of an entiry e.g. each row in Employees table represents (attributes of) one single employee. A table represents all rows/instances of the entiy (employee) collect

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
If this is the way you want it then why is the need for a separate table? I understand separate table is good when you have repeating groups (one-to-many) or it's an independent attribute/entity. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OR

Re: extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread groups
Hi, How did you identify this is the statement which is causing the problem ? Did you check v$latch_children for the library cache children ? I would assume if it's one single SQL, then the contention will be on one child latch and not distributed across all the library cache latches. If this

Microsoft Txn Server / Locking issues

2002-07-31 Thread Fedock, John (KAM.RHQ)
Anybody have any experience with Microsoft Txn Server? I am running into issues with a few Windows2000 servers running Microsoft Txn Servers that are connecting to my 8.1.7.4 HP-UX database. There are several concurrent txns running that do a lot of inserting and data loading. Most of the time

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free (SOLVED)

2002-07-31 Thread Ron Thomas
FYI, you do have the choice of running server partitioned. I'm running 10.7 character with 8.1.7.4 with no problems. Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're sober." --William Butler Yeats.

Reports Manager -- does size matter?

2002-07-31 Thread Martin Brown
I've run into a strange problem with Reports Manager; small reports publish fine (in any format), but the larger ones error with a phony space message for fnd_documents_long_text coming from the client. There is plenty of space in the applsys tablespace. I've had an open tar for months, only t

RE: IFILE in node-specific init file in VMS

2002-07-31 Thread Stahlke, Mark
Hi Gene, I've tried using both a logical (ora_system) and the full path. It doesn't work either way. Tom - I'm tempted but I would like the simplicity of maintaining a single init.ora. Mark -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of lis

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Gene Sais
The good thing is that you can only work 1 corner at a time. I got to pick up a used wheelchair and go for the sympathy work :) *so many corners so little time* >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/02 05:50PM >>> Guess I'll make out a sign now which reads, "Will code for food" and hang out at a busy in

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Magaliff, Bill
igor: I agree with what you say here, as well as your previous comment about deleting a laid-off employee and then the extra step of finding the orphan addresses. Our developers have imbedded this inverse logic throughout the application. and now I'm left to try to figure out how to validate da

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free (SOLVED)

2002-07-31 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Waleed, We are running different versions from 7.3.4.5 to 9i. Ver 7.3.4.5 is for Oracle Financials 10.7 Char and company not yet decided to go for Application 11i so we have to support it for a while and face all such limitations ver 7.3.4. Sorry no choice but to live with it. Regards Rafiq

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Addresses is the parent (so it will not be orphaned). It's up to the business rules to decide to keep addresses when a employee get fired or not. If cleaning is required then it's easy to do. Many of the application these days like to keep a table with all US addresses. The idea is always to sim

Re: extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
Jared, What do you think of those values, what should I pay attention ? tia Ramon EVENTTOTAL_WAITS TOTAL_TIMEOUTS TIME_WAITED AVERAGE_WAIT --- -- --- db fil

RE: extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread Gogala, Mladen
What I'd do first would be to profile the httpd processes by compiling Apache and Tomcat with "-g" flag (for gcc) and then use gprof, pixie, hrprof or oprofile on the resulting output files. Oracle is not compiled with "-g", so profiling will stop when it encounters a routine from libclntshr.so,

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents > From: Igor Neyman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > here is an argument against this solution: > > in current economy, some day you'll have a lay-off, and you'd want to > "delete" an employee (you will be laying off employe

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Neyman
meant "our life-time" Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:21 PM > well, eventually all those living expenses will even up (along with the > salaries), but not in ou

Re: extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
This is the result of the query you send. Hope the out put is readable EVENT TOTAL_WAITS TOTAL_TIMEOUTS TIME_WAITED AVERAGE_WAIT buffer deadlock 3 3 0 0 instance state change 2 0 0 0 library cache lock 6 0 .04 .

Re: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Neyman
seems to me like a case of "inverse" logic. is it "employee" (or "supplier", or whatever) entity, which has "address" attribute, or is it "address" entity, which has "employee" (or "supplier") as an attribute? for me, it's the first: I'm not interested in any address, if it does not belong to "emp

RE: IFILE in node-specific init file in VMS

2002-07-31 Thread Gene Sais
I use ifile w/out a problem in OpenVMS. Do you reference it w/ full path or logical? I don't like using init...ora and config...ora. I use an instance specific initSID.ora that ifile's a common init.ora file into each db. Its nice to put a change in 1 file and its applied to all dbs. Gene

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Orr, Steve
Guess I'll make out a sign now which reads, "Will code for food" and hang out at a busy intersection. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anybody read Bob Lewis' Survival Guide column in InfoWorld? A few weeks ago he talked

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Sounds great! we will need to get a green card to INDIA to get our jobs back :( -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anybody read Bob Lewis' Survival Guide column in InfoWorld? A few weeks ago he talked about programming jobs

Re: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Neyman
here is an argument against this solution: in current economy, some day you'll have a lay-off, and you'd want to "delete" an employee (you will be laying off employees - not addresses, right?), then you'll have to take "additional" care not to leave "orphan" addresses, and all this headache, only

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Jesse, Rich
Which is why I'm a DBA (wannabe). Until 10i, when I'll be obsolete, too. ;) Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Weaver, Walt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Se

Re: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas Day
Your unstated business rule is that no employee can have the same address as a supplier. My first thought is that the ADDRESS table has a primary key, generated via a sequence. EMPLOYEE and SUPPLIER each has a foreign key to that primary key. Do you really care whether an ADDRESS is the addres

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I've already bought a set of knitting needles. > -Original Message- > From: Weaver, Walt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Corp. move to India > > > Anybody read Bob Lewis' Survival Guide

RE: MS win2k SP3 available

2002-07-31 Thread Jesse, Rich
And if it isn't broken yet, SP3 can automatically download patches and upgrades for you, so it can break even more on it's own now. Isn't that an admin's dream? Having all desktops and servers administer themselves? Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTE

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
I would agree with you and become a pro-globalization if US imports labor from India to build houses in US. But globalization always work one way! Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company -Original M

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Neyman
well, eventually all those living expenses will even up (along with the salaries), but not in out life-time :-) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:55 PM > > I would

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread ltiu
If you can't bring Indians with H1-B visa over to Oracle, then bring Oracle over to the Indians. On Wednesday 31 July 2002 13:48, Khedr, Waleed wrote: > He is learning how to lower development costs, increase his profit margin, > and increase US unemployment. > > Waleed -- Please see the offici

RE: IFILE in node-specific init file in VMS

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
Tom, this is for OPS. Not using IFILE means duplicating a lot of parameters for each instance. Jared "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/2002 02:04 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Supplier Supplier_id is pk col2 col3 supplier_address_id fk references addresses (address_id) Employee = Employee_id is PK col2 col3 employee_address_id fk references addresses (address_id) Addresses = Address_id is PK zip code street etc The address table is the pare

Re: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Neyman
yet, another solution: add another table, called i.e. "ACTOR" (actor_id, actor_type); sub-entity tables "EMPLOYEE", "SUPLLIER", "CONTRACTOR" will store sub-entity specific information, and their PK (employee_id, supplier_id, ...) will be foreign keys to actor_id in "ACTOR" table; table "ADDRESS"

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
Thanks Tom, I wish I'd said that. Haven't done enough modeling lately... Jared "Magaliff, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/2002 02:10 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subj

Re: extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
What does this tell you? select event, total_waits, total_timeouts, time_waited/100 time_waited, average_wait from v$system_event order by time_waited / Johnson Poovathummoottil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/2002 01:24 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Weaver, Walt
Anybody read Bob Lewis' Survival Guide column in InfoWorld? A few weeks ago he talked about programming jobs in the U.S. going the way of manufacturing jobs, with more and more going overseas to developing countries. He claimed that programmers/developers will be going the way of textile workers

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Magaliff, Bill
yes it does help - thanks only potential issue with my second option is that the different parent tables may be distributed and not located in the same node - in that case using a straight FK is out, right? (both parent and child would have to be on the same node?) but what about a trigger in a d

Re: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Greg Moore
> model a child table that has multiple > parent tables Consider reversing it. Model one parent (ADDRESS) and two child (CUST, EMP). Parent is super-type that has the attributes common to both, e.g., name, address, city. Children have attributes unique to them, e.g., CUST has sales_rep_id, cu

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Clark, Tommy R
Since the ADDRESS table is just a look-up table, why not let it have a primary key for each address and then let the EMPLOYEE and SUPPLIER tables reference it with a foreign key? That does not prevent the EMPLOYEE and SUPPLIER tables from having their own unique primary keys. -Original Messag

Re: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
Bill, There are other approaches as well. A table for each type of address. This allows you to have foreign keys. You can use use a view to pull all the tables together, and just include the discriminating column in the view. It's an option, but not one I personally care for. Another is simil

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Magaliff, Bill
thanks, tom . . . your second option is one I had suggested below, which in may ways is preferable - easy to track FK relationships, cascade delte, enforce r/i, etc. your first option won't work in our case - the parent tables are too dissimilar to enable us to combine them - more real life exam

RE: data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Bill, simply combine the employee, supplier, contractor and vendor tables into one such table titled "people". Add a column to indicate what type of record it is (a code indicating one of the above). solves your problem. if this is not possible, then the address table could have multiple colum

RE: IFILE in node-specific init file in VMS

2002-07-31 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Mark, throw away the IFILE thingy. it is not worth the trouble! create instance specific init.ora files. solves your problem. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Greetings

Re: extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Neyman
Your developers aren't unique :-) personally, I don't see any evildoing in caching some stuff on the client side. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:24 PM > Hi Al

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread dmeng
I would not treat this snip of news in such a light-hearted manner. Comparing to couple of years ago, the IT job market has slumped completely from a sellers market to a buyer's market. I am not a greedy person by any means and all I asking for is a decent salary and some job security. But if thi

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Ray Stell
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 12:15:39PM -0800, Gogala, Mladen wrote: > Is Larry Ellison learning how to speak Hindi? No, but I believe he is fluent in several "markup" languages...tippy boom. > > -Original Message- > > From: Ray Stell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
For US they want us to be OCP, OCA but it does not matter if you outsource the code development offshore! Waleed Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, J

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
He is learning how to lower development costs, increase his profit margin, and increase US unemployment. Waleed Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 3

IFILE in node-specific init file in VMS

2002-07-31 Thread Stahlke, Mark
Greetings elitist *nix bigots, I'm starting to upgrade our OPS databases on OpenVMS from 7.3 to 8.1.7.3 and I've run into a problem with the IFILE parameter in the node specific init file. It appears Oracle is not reading the generic init.ora specified in the IFILE parameter in the node specific

RE: MS win2k SP3 available

2002-07-31 Thread Kevin Lange
Thanks. My win2k server has been having a problem lately. I wonder if any of their fixes might patch a hole that I think someone came thru. I believe the server is currently compromised . -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-

data modeling question - child table with multiple parents

2002-07-31 Thread Magaliff, Bill
Good day, all: Am curious to hear opinions on how to model a child table that has multiple parent tables (i.e., foreign key to multiple parents) Example: There's a table that stores Addresses (table ADDRESS) for both employees (table EMPLOYEE) and suppliers (table SUPPLIER). Each of these table

OT - IBM buys Price

2002-07-31 Thread Greg Moore
>From the NYT: IBM announced yesterday that it planned to buy PricewaterhouseCoopers Consulting for $3.5 billion. The move will accelerate I.B.M.'s shift from selling just computers and software toward a future of providing information technology to corporate customers as a utility-like service.

Re: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (ubTools)
Yes, India deserves that. Ray Stell wrote: > Heard on the BBC radio at lunch that Oracle Corp. is moving alot of > operations to India, 1800 new jobs. > === > Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D > -- >

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Nelson Flores
does that mean 1.2 billion new DBA's ??? -Mensaje original- De: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Miércoles, 31 de Julio de 2002 16:16 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: RE: Oracle Corp. move to India Is Larry Ellison learning how to speak Hindi?

using stored procedures from pro*c

2002-07-31 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: using stored procedures from pro*c When calling a stored procedure (to do a select) from a pro*c program, does the sqlca.sqlerrd[2] row counter get set?  Or does that happen only if you are putting the selects into the Pro*C program? It seems to act differently for different version

extremely high number of executions

2002-07-31 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
Hi All, We have an application which executes one sql statement more than 10 million times a day. Everything is good about the sql, well tuned, uses indexes, parse only once, etc. The number of concurrent users in this database seems to around 60, but we see an average 1500 executions/sec. We qu

RE: Jared, please do something

2002-07-31 Thread John Weatherman
Title: RE: Jared, please do something Way to fan the flames   John P Weatherman Database Administrator Replacements Ltd. -Original Message-From: Gesler, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:18 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE

RE: Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Is Larry Ellison learning how to speak Hindi? > -Original Message- > From: Ray Stell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:40 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Oracle Corp. move to India > > > > Heard on the BBC radio at lunch that Oracle

RE: driving me crazy

2002-07-31 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: driving me crazy Creating mater. view - can't because error: ORA-01723: zero-length columns are not allowed It is giving me error supposedly on join??? How do I know which column - can I specify column size in create statement??

Oracle-related news URLs

2002-07-31 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Just for info in case some people might not know, URLs for Oracle-related news: http://www.orafaq.com/faqnews.htm http://www.newsnow.co.uk/cgi-bin/NewsNow/NewsFeed.htm?Topic=*.Tech&Section=A SearchW&Search=Oracle&ASearch=Oracle,Ellison,SQL There are minor differences between the two sites, but

RE: Ids and passwords for application users

2002-07-31 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Ids and passwords for application users > -Original Message- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I think the real issue is who is going to keep the usernames > and passwords > maintained. Is it you? Do you have that much spare time? At my previous empl

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free

2002-07-31 Thread Fink, Dan
My point exactly. The failure COULD leave a stray temp segment in the tablespace that could cause the second attempt to fail. I have not been able to recreate it, so I am not certain exactly the behavior of dba_free_space. But I do recall a similar situation on 7.3 years ago. -Original Messag

OT: MS win2k SP3 available

2002-07-31 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Someone forwarded me this just now: FYI Windows 2000 SP3 is being officially released tomorrow but is available on the web today. It incorporates literally hundreds of hotfixes plus some new features required by Microsoft's antitrust agreement. (MS pu

RE: Ids and passwords for application users

2002-07-31 Thread groups
The DBA usually does not get to decide how the application is developed in most of the cases. We have to manage what's out there. There are some products which use one login for all users and manage security within the application. If the applications is web enabled, the changes are the DBA

Oracle Corp. move to India

2002-07-31 Thread Ray Stell
Heard on the BBC radio at lunch that Oracle Corp. is moving alot of operations to India, 1800 new jobs. === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free (SOLVED)

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Any plans for Oracle upgrade? :) Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Rich, Thanks for reply and your explanation. For ver 7.3.4 dba_free_space specify large extent available but when using initial extent of around

RE: Ids and passwords for application users

2002-07-31 Thread groups
I don't think administering usernames should be the DBAs responsibilty. There are better things to do than create/manage hundreds of users. But there are applications (for instance Siebel) which require you to create individual logins for each user. We have handled that by creating a pack

RE: Oracle Heterogenous Services

2002-07-31 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Lee, are you trying to use your Unix machine as an ODBC client or as a database server server? If it is supposed to be a database server, things are easy and trivial. If your unix box is supposed to be a client, you can find an some ODBC drivers at http://www.unixodbc.org/ . I've never tried usi

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free (SOLVED)

2002-07-31 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
Rich, Thanks for reply and your explanation. For ver 7.3.4 dba_free_space specify large extent available but when using initial extent of around that size , it never creates initial extent of that size and generate error so I am not relying it and instead using this query. However I am not usi

RE: Install Oracle 8i on Windows XP?

2002-07-31 Thread Jared . Still
Call me what you like, I really don't care. There are bigots on both sides of the MS/Unix fence. I happen to prefer unix, but tolerate both types of bigots, and even work with NT/Win2k extensively. What I don't tolerate well are tirades and name calling. 100% of email from folks reading this t

RE: Oracle 9i, tomcat

2002-07-31 Thread Ji, Richard
Joshy, In some versions of 8i there were bug related to OCI driver where closing Statements and ResultSet aren't enough, you have to close Connection which is obviously not good for connection pooling. Not sure if 9i could have this problem too. Also, check on how you close the Statements and Re

RE: Jared, please do something

2002-07-31 Thread Straub, Dan
Title: RE: Jared, please do something I'm sure that folks who have Unix email can handle this somehow.   I must admit, it was pretty amusing reading the thread, but I subscribed to this list for the technical level and content, not for cyber-pissing contests.   Personally, I use the tool (ha

RE: Table Naming Conventions

2002-07-31 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I concede your point btw -- my 12 year old car has the combination lap/shoulder belt :) --- Cary Millsap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assuming reliability in something that's inherently unreliable > creates > danger. The experienced learn to ignore naming standards, as you > describe below. The

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free (SOLVED)

2002-07-31 Thread Jesse, Rich
Hi Rafiq, Right, PARALLEL does do that, which is why I had stated in the original post that I had tried the CREATE without PARALLEL after coalescing the TS. In the meantime, I have figured out what the problem is. My problem is on a test system. This test system's "MYCOOLTBL" happens to be par

RE: ORA-1658 even though there is enough contig free

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
But it was said that it failed even with noparallel -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have not been able to duplicate the scenario, so I'm only guessing here... (consume with 1 large grain of salt). When you specify par

RE: Jared, please do something

2002-07-31 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: RE: Jared, please do something I think every body is over-reacting here. O/S is not a religion. I do not care if it's UNIX or Windows or whatever!   My job is to make what we have running to run better.   Take it easy , it's not worth it, life is already very stressing!   Waleed --

RE: Jared, please do something

2002-07-31 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Title: RE: Jared, please do something bigot  ;o) -Original Message-From: Gesler, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:18 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Jared, please do something That won't work...obviously everybody is

RE: Jared, please do something

2002-07-31 Thread Gesler, Rich
Title: RE: Jared, please do something That won't work...obviously everybody is on Unix here.     -Original Message-From: Straub, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:03 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Jared, please do somethin

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