A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Miller, Jay
Many of you probably know this already, but it took me by surprise (and caused no end of grief) so I thought I'd warn people. I cloned our 8.0.4 production database onto another machine for some testing we were doing (copy of entire Oracle filesystem, copied hot backup over) and started it up

Re:A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread dgoulet
Jay, Did that several months ago with our HP-MPE box. The problem was that we changed the IP address of the box and brought a new one online, with the old ones original IP. Now MPE has NO idea of what a DNS server is so one has to bury the actual IP address into things like listener.ora

Re: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Jared Still
Yeah, you discovered one of the gaping holes in SQL Net. Putting a password on the listener is of little help either. As I recall, you can prevent someone from starting the listener, but not from remotely stopping it. Someone please correct me if I have this wrong, but we tested it a few

RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Another thing to watch are the dbms_job entries, especially ones which interact with other databases. For example a job which pulls data from another database and writes back to that database the success of its efforts. If this job were to run in the clone, it might perform this task before

RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Kimberly Smith
Been there, done that;-) -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Many of you probably know this already, but it took me by surprise (and caused no end of grief) so I thought I'd warn people. I cloned our 8.0.4 production

RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Richard Ji
And watch out for any database links that points to other production servers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/01 12:27PM Another thing to watch are the dbms_job entries, especially ones which interact with other databases. For example a job which pulls data from another database and writes back to

Re: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Paul Drake
unique passwords in listener.ora files prevents this. Kimberly Smith wrote: Been there, done that;-) -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Many of you probably know this already, but it took me by surprise (and caused

RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Hillman, Alex
Use localhost as hostname in listener.ora and you will never have this problem. Alex Hillman -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jay, Did that several months ago with our HP-MPE box. The problem was that we changed

RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Miller, Jay
Immediately after this happened I thought of that and removed all other entries from tnsnames.ora so database links wouldn't work (and of course changed the reference for the local entry). -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 1:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Kimberly Smith
When you run HP ServiceGuard that is not an option. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Use localhost as hostname in listener.ora and you will never have this problem. Alex Hillman -Original Message- Sent:

Re:RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread dgoulet
Nor is it an option on MPE where the network layer is primitive to say the least. One HAS to use the actual IP address of the server. Reply Separator Author: Kimberly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7/11/2001 10:26 AM When you run HP ServiceGuard

Re:RE: A danger in cloning databases

2001-07-11 Thread Richard Ji
And I think in a cluster, if you configure the listener process to be a service, then it has to use the IP as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/01 03:51PM Nor is it an option on MPE where the network layer is primitive to say the least. One HAS to use the actual IP address of the server.