RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-31 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Thought of trying this out... I analyzed a huge table in our system and simultaneously checked for locks... Oracle did not lock the concerned table being analysed, but aquired locks on sys tables for sometime, both in estimate and compute options. On oracle 8.1.7. rgds amar -Original

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-31 Thread Christopher Spence
It is a forum post I believe, I think I did a search on analyze lock. I have seen numerous articles were Oracle claims locking during analyze, that is the only one I found with quick parusal. Like many other things, Oracle is to blame on this old wives tale. Walking on water and developing

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-31 Thread Christopher Spence
Yes, the library cache object is locked so it is not dropped during an analyze. Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:25 AM To: Multiple

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Vadim Gorbounov
: Analyze table and locking All, Just a quicky !! Anyone know if there are any locking issues while analyzing statistics for objects ?? TIA Lee The information contained in this communication isconfidential, is intended only for the use of the recipientnamed above

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Shevtsov, Eduard
Hi Lee, Compute option locks a table, but 'estimate' doesn't Regards, Ed -Original Message- Sent: 30 ??? 2001 ?. 15:22 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L All, Just a quicky !! Anyone know if there are any locking issues while analyzing statistics for objects ?? TIA

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
Ok, now I'm confused One reply - It depends. For instance, 'analyze index validate structure' takes out 'shared' lock on the table (preventing inserts/deletes/updates), while 'analyze index compute/estimate statistics' does not. Another --- Compute option locks a

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Rajaram
I think thats the reason why we have two options - Estimate and Compute Statistics. Rajaram. -Original Message- From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Analyze table

Re: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Igor Neyman
DBAPerceptron, Inc.(734)414-4627[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robertson Lee - lerobe To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:21 AM Subject: Analyze table and locking All, Just a quicky !! Anyone know

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Analyze table and locking Ok, now I'm confused One reply - It depends. For instance, 'analyze index validate structure' takes out 'shared' lock on the table (preventing inserts/deletes/updates), while 'analyze index compute

Re: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Raghu Kota
] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Analyze table and locking Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:21:46 -0800 All, Just a quicky !! Anyone know if there are any locking issues while analyzing statistics for objects ?? TIA Lee The information contained

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Vadim Gorbounov
Not necessarily. 8i+ DOESN'T require _ANY_ lock to COMPUTE while collecting statistics (99.99% of total operation time). It needs short lock to start and complete analyze. Regards Vadim -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
Many thanks -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 30 May 2001 17:10To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Analyze table and lockingAnalyze index validate structure takes shared lock on the table disallowing any changes

Re: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
I have used compute statistics since version 7.3.2 up through 8.1.6, and never had it hold a table lock for the duration of the analyze. I don't know where people are getting the idea that compute statistics holds a lock and estimate doesn't. That just doesn't make sense. Why would compute

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread PD Miller
At 8:10 -0800 30/5/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In earlier versions (7.3 ?) 'analyze ..compute' used to take table level locks. From 8 onwards, compute or estimate does not take any table level or row level locks at all... Sorry, not true. From at least 7.2.3 (the oldest I have here) there

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Christopher Spence
Oracle actually claims this statement. There are numerous docs stating this, for example DOC ID: 213220.999. But I agree 100% with Jeremiah's claims, in fact it can be verified very easily looking at v$lock while analyzing a large table. (I have actually done this in the past and present) and

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Christopher Spence
nice to see you posting again :) Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L At 8:10 -0800

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Christopher Spence
Oracle actually claims this statement. There are numerous docs stating this, for example DOC ID: 213220.999. But I agree 100% with Jeremiah's claims, in fact it can be verified very easily looking at v$lock while analyzing a large table. (I have actually done this in the past and present) and

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Rajaram
recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Analyze table and locking Oracle actually claims this statement. There are numerous docs stating this, for example DOC ID: 213220.999. But I agree 100% with Jeremiah's claims, in fact it can be verified very easily looking at v$lock while analyzing

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Kimberly Smith
Sorry but it is true. I have a 7.3.3 database and if it can't acquire a table lock it cannot do the compute. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L At 8:10 -0800 30/5/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In earlier versions (7.3 ?)

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Kimberly Smith
It could be a bug with my version... I don't think it actually keeps a lock but it wants to be able to get the lock. For the most part we don't get our analyzes in due to this. Fortunately for me, we no longer want to and have deleted the stats. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Gregory Conron
On May 30, 2001 03:21 pm, Jeremiah Wilton wrote: I have used compute statistics since version 7.3.2 up through 8.1.6, and never had it hold a table lock for the duration of the analyze. I don't know where people are getting the idea that compute statistics holds a lock and estimate doesn't.

RE: Analyze table and locking

2001-05-30 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
Christopher, Is this document perhaps a TAR as I cannot find it on Metalink (but maybe the search engine doesn't like me today). Do you have the exact URL for this note 213220.999? Thanks, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, 31 May 2001 6:59 To: Multiple recipients of list