Best practice for backing out of Application Patches

2002-12-03 Thread Scott Stefick
Sorry, I forgot a Subject title! Gurus, I was just given a project to maintain a Computerized Maintenance Management System. When I asked the companies support staff how to roll back patches in the backend Oracle Database (Ver. 8174), they said that there was no way to do this. I'm

RE: Best practice for backing out of Application Patches

2002-12-03 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Scott, Of course, the answer is It depends. It all depends on the kind of software patches that are being applied. Are you talking about adding a column to a table that allows nulls? There might not be a need to back this patch out - the column might be able to stay depending on how it is used

RE: Best practice for backing out of Application Patches

2002-12-03 Thread Scott Stefick
Thanks to Thomas Mercadante, Stephen Lee and Rick Cale for their responses. I think it's pretty unanimous that if this needs to be done, I would just restore to the point in time taken right before the patches were installed. Either I could do an export/restore/import or refresh from the

Re: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace,

2002-09-27 Thread Ruth Gramolini
That is the recommended way. I have a 6 partition table with each partition in a different tablespace and each table space on a different drive. It's working well! Ruth - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-27 Thread Kawatra V (Vikas) at Aera
For any indexes on the table ,LOCAL prefixed indexes (b*tree/bitmap) is the preferred way to go ! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L tablespace, That is the recommended way. I have a 6 partition table with each

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-26 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace, exactly - in the warehouse I am working on we have so much data over so many partitioned ranges (for the benefits of partition elimination) that it didn't make sense to create a separate part. in each tablespace plus

Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace,

2002-09-25 Thread Freeman, Robert
We currently are creating partitions of a given table in individual tablespaces (1 partition = one tablespace). To me, this seems like a reasonable practice. Anyone have any thoughts about this they would like the share? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database Architect CSX Midtier

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-25 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace, BTW, moving partitions from one tablespace to another is quick and easy so if later you have a real reason to have more tablespaces you can create them - our I/O configuration and access path did not warrant

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-25 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Robert - That is how I've generally done it. If you are partitioning because the table is very large, then separate tablespaces gives you the flexibility to place these partitions on separate devices so you can get some parallel I/O going. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace,

2002-09-25 Thread paquette stephane
That's the way I've done it. It let's you drop a partition and drop the tablespace so nothing is left. --- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : We currently are creating partitions of a given table in individual tablespaces (1 partition = one tablespace). To me, this seems like a

Re: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace,

2002-09-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
it's what I'm planning on doing... seems to me that when we decide to remove partitions, we can easily do so and retrieve the disk space this way --- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently are creating partitions of a given table in individual tablespaces (1 partition = one

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-25 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace, What if working on limited I/O so that striping is done at the OS level mostly. In this case there is no advantage to one partition - one tablespace and if there are many partitions it just gets hard to maintain

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
That's the strategy I have followed in my databases. Each table partition and each index partition is in its own tablespace. Helps me a lot when I do any maintenance operations. Partitioning is by 4 digit calendar year. - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002

RE: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
Exactly the way we do it as well. Each table and index partition are in their own tablespaces (indexes are local and not global) Regards Lee -Original Message- Sent: 25 September 2002 20:54 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L tablespace, it's what I'm planning on doing... seems

Re: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace,

2002-09-25 Thread Johnson Poovathummoottil
We have a database which stores 5 years data with most of the tables partitioned on year_month. We have three tablespces each for each table, with tablespace_1 having 01,04,07,10 months and tablespace_2 having 2,5,8,11 and tablespace_3 having 3,6,9,12 --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablesp

2002-09-25 Thread Tim Gorman
placing them in different tablespaces also allows you to place older tablespaces into READ ONLY mode and reduce the volume of backups. also permits moving less-frequently accessed tablespaces to near-line storage, such as tape-based file-systems or CDROM... - Original Message - To:

Re: Best Practice - Partitioned object, one partition per tablespace,

2002-09-25 Thread Tim Gorman
Another approach is to partition according to your load strategy, but make them reside in tablespaces according to how you want to set them to READ ONLY. For example, if you load daily, partition daily. But if you want to set the data into READ ONLY to reduce backup volumes on a quarterly

Re:RE: What is best practice - differenet schema/different d

2001-03-29 Thread dgoulet
PROTECTED] Date: 3/28/2001 9:45 AM Actually I meant Dick, nor Doug, sorry Mike -Original Message- From: Lanteigne, Mike [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: What is best practice - differe

RE: What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-28 Thread Lanteigne, Mike
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re:What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs Rao, I'm going to differ from a previous return

RE: What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-28 Thread Gene Sais
databases separated from the other OLTP databases? Thanks Mike Lanteigne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re:What is best practice - differenet

RE: What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-28 Thread Lanteigne, Mike
Actually I meant Dick, nor Doug, sorry Mike -Original Message- From: Lanteigne, Mike [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs Hi Doug

What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-27 Thread Rao, Maheswara
List, I would like to have your opinion on the following scenario. We are having an application which is used by different customers (around 15 customers). On an average each customer will have around 1,000 transactions per 5 minutes. Now, is it better to have a separate database for each

Re: What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-27 Thread Rocky Welch
Hi Maheswara, I would think seperate databases would be the way to go, if for no other reason, you can bring one customer offline without affecting the others. -Rocky --- "Rao, Maheswara" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, I would like to have your opinion on the following scenario. We are

RE: What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-27 Thread Richard Ji
Having separate databases gives you some flexibility. You can manage them separatly, for instance you can upgrade the database to a newer version in phase. Also, if you lose a database only one customer is affected. Do all the customers always use the same application (same version)? If one

Re:What is best practice - differenet schema/different dbs

2001-03-27 Thread dgoulet
Rao, I'm going to differ from a previous return post. I think that you should use different schema's with separate tablespaces. Why? Because your all on one machine therefore all of your background Oracle processes are competing for the same CPU, memory, and IO resources which can and

Re: Best Practice ?

2001-03-26 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Hi ! It all depends on your OPTIMIZER_MODE. I guess you will be using CHOOSE and if that is the case I would recommend analyzing the tables indexes (or ANALYZE_SCHEMA) for + or - 10 % change. - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 25,

Best Practice ?

2001-03-25 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
For Analyze of Tables on a Oracle 817 Database on Cluster with OPS ? Should the Tables be Analyzed OR Not ? This is a Application with More OLTP than Batch ( Banking Product ) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: VIVEK_SHARMA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]