the best return on investment.
Pointless having to use DB2 if your people don't know anything about DB2 - even
if DB2 is the best, you still can't get it off the ground if you do not have the
poeple to work it. Same goes for the other databases.
If you need to evaluate which is the best database
return on
investment.
Pointless having to use DB2 if your people don't know anything about DB2 -
even
if DB2 is the best, you still can't get it off the ground if you do not
have the
poeple to work it. Same goes for the other databases.
If you need to evaluate which is the best database, evaluate
Lembark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8/13/2002 7:13 AM
One thing that seems different to me: DBA's at the sites
we work in with DB2 seem to swear by it more than at it.
This is the reverse ratio I find at Oracle houses.
--
Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer
Workhorse
.
The point here is not which one is the best database, but which
combination of
database and people(talent/skill) can give you the best return on
investment.
Pointless having to use DB2 if your people don't know anything about DB2
-
even
if DB2 is the best, you still can't get it off
AS/400, MS SQL
Server,
MySQL,
Oracle or Sybase.
The point here is not which one is the best database, but which
combination of
database and people(talent/skill) can give you the best return on
investment.
Pointless having to use DB2 if your people don't know anything about
DB2
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Oracle people are expensive
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Hi Everyone!
Well, there's been a lot of Oracle vs. Microsoft traffic on the
list, but now my Manglement wants a similar comparison to IBM's
DB2.
Does anyone know of web sites or locations where there are
documented objective comparisons between Oracle and DB2? I'm
faced with answering
For what I've read, globally the 2 databases are equal
in performance, reliability and functionnalities.
Larryh E as many times said that it's only competition
in the database market is DB2.
I guess it really depends on your environment.
Of course Oracle works on more OS (used to be anyway
-- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/12/02 14:38:19 -0800
Hi Everyone!
Well, there's been a lot of Oracle vs. Microsoft traffic on the
list, but now my Manglement wants a similar comparison to IBM's
DB2.
Does anyone know of web sites or locations where
We have an application which will require us to reload some
Oracle tables on a regular basis from a main frame DB2 database.
Management does not want to spring for the cost of any connectivity
tools. Short of the obvious dump-to-a-text-file/input-with-sqlldr
appoach, is there any other way to do
] wrote:
We have an application which will require us to reload some
Oracle tables on a regular basis from a main frame DB2 database.
Management does not want to spring for the cost of any connectivity
tools. Short of the obvious dump-to-a-text-file/input-with-sqlldr
appoach, is there any other
If I were you I would talk to that management.
We had a Mainframe DB2 database that needed to have shadow tables created on
Oracle. What we ended up doing was to get Oracles Gateway for RDB which
allowed us to create queries on Oracle that accessed data on the mainframe
DB2.
We even went one
Has anyone compared IBMs DB2 offerings against Oracle tools. There appears
to be a produce very close to JDeveloper and the tools claim to compete well
in the mid tier database market.
Emery Gordon
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Has anyone compared IBMs DB2 offerings against Oracle tools. There appears
to be a produce very close to JDeveloper and the tools claim to compete
well in the mid tier database market.
Emery Gordon
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Gordon, Emery {PDBI~Palo Alto}[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Has anyone compared IBMs DB2 offerings against Oracle tools. There
appears
to be a produce very close to JDeveloper and the tools claim to compete
well
in the mid tier database market.
Emery Gordon
It's very much a case
time rebooting than coding.
But the tool does have good development features esp their shared repository
features.
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:50 AM
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Has anyone compared IBMs DB2 offerings against
Hello!
Some had already asked this question. Please advice me
here.
How to import 350 GB from DB2 to Oracle quickly and
what kind of tools are out there to facilitate this
process.
Please help!!
=
Thank You.
Best Regards,
Steve Johnson
minutes estimated driving time. I don't think you can normally average 85
MPH for the entire trip with the the likes of CO-113, US-138, *Chestnut St*,
and I-25 into Denver!
If I were interested and qualified (DB2 experience? No.), I would go direct
at http://www.cabelas.com/ - bottom left side, under
an Oracle /DB2 DBA position opening on its
IT staff.
Sidney is a small town, 2 hours from Denver.. 30 mins from Sterling, CO so
it's very close
to the CO/NE border.
The area has a very, very low cost of living, so renting or buying a house
is tremendously
low compared to most other areas
Company in Sidney, Nebraska has an Oracle /DB2 DBA position opening on its
IT staff.
Sidney is a small town, 2 hours from Denver.. 30 mins from Sterling, CO so
it's very close
to the CO/NE border.
The area has a very, very low cost of living, so renting or buying a house
is tremendously
low
, Nebraska has an Oracle /DB2 DBA position opening on its
IT staff.
Sidney is a small town, 2 hours from Denver.. 30 mins from Sterling, CO so
it's very close
to the CO/NE border.
The area has a very, very low cost of living, so renting or buying a house
is tremendously
low compared to most other areas
The Oracle Store lists two products which allow connections
from Oracle to DB2 on a mainframe, Enterprise Integration Gateway and
Mainframe Integration Gateway. The latter costs more than twice as
much as the former. Can anyone who has used these products tell me
how I can determine which one I
Here is a good DB2 list
http://www.ryci.com/db2-l/
Dave
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Hey, can anyone point me to a DB2/UDB mailing list similar to this one? We
are having a performance
problem with triggers
Hey, can anyone point me to a DB2/UDB mailing list similar to this one? We
are having a performance
problem with triggers and thought maybe someone in the UDB community could
help us.
___
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Portland, OR
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Regards,
Bruce Reardon
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DB2's listserv is DB2-L at RYCI.Com.
To subscribe, send a note to: [EMAIL
There is one at www.lazydba.com.
Send a blank e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not sure how active it is. But it's worth a try
- Kirti
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Hey, can anyone point me to a DB2/UDB mailing list
employer has an unlimited license for DB2/UDB. I am
kind of excited at the prospect of learning a new dbms that isn't SQL
Server.
I am also feeling the need to expand my skills. Glancing at the job market
under just Oracle isn't promising right now. I also have a feeling my job
will eventually
recipients of list ORACLE-L
My fellow Databasers,
I just found out my employer has an unlimited license for DB2/UDB. I am
kind of excited at the prospect of learning a new dbms that isn't SQL
Server.
I am also feeling the need to expand my skills. Glancing at the job market
under just Oracle
My fellow Databasers,
I just found out my employer has an unlimited license for DB2/UDB. I am
kind of excited at the prospect of learning a new dbms that isn't SQL
Server.
I am also feeling the need to expand my skills. Glancing at the job market
under just Oracle isn't promising right now
DB2 usually means RPG which IMHO totally sucks. What OS is this for?? DB2 pretty
much runs on its own. You might get to learn all about an AS400. I agree with you
that you will be more marketable knowing more than one database. There are all types
of apps made for DB2. I don't do
I checked bookpool and amazon and can't seem to find any decent books
for experienced DBA's who need to learn UDB/DB2. Has anyone found a
decent book for Oracle DBA's needing to learn UDB? Since my company
has chosen UDB for 'strategic' reasons on an upcoming project I need to
learn
Brian - you might check IBM's Web site. They have typically been generous
with their information. Another resource would be to start getting familiar
with DB2 newslists.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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http://nscpcw.physics.upenn.edu/db2_docs/
could be useful. i'm still trying to get a free trial copy of db2...
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Hi there,
Does anybody know if there's a list
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http://nscpcw.physics.upenn.edu/db2_docs/
could be useful. i'm still trying to get a free trial copy of db2...
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Does anybody know if there's a list such as this one for DB2? Or, a link to DB2
documentation (maybe something like the Oracle Concepts Guide)?
_
try these:
DB2 links from SearchDatabase.com -
http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/bestWebLinks
Title: RE: DB2
DB2-L is at RYCI.com. You can subscribe through the web front end
http://www.ryci.com/db2-l/, or you can do it through generic listserv
instructions below.
I had to change the u to a * in the word below to avoid the listserv filter, so you'll have to change it to the proper
Title: Message
That
used to be possible, from IBM's web site.
That
was four years ago though, DB2 v5.2 is what I downloaded.
If
Oracle is making them available via download for free, can't see why IBM
wouldn't.
Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems
Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems
Title: Message
- Original Message -
From:
Cunningham, Gerald
Does anybody know
if there's a list such as this one for DB2? Or, a link to DB2 documentation
(maybe something like the Oracle Concepts Guide)?
try these:
DB2 links from SearchDatabase.com
Title: Message
Hi
there,
Does anybody know if
there's a list such as this one for DB2? Or, a link to DB2 documentation (maybe
something like the Oracle Concepts Guide)?
Thanks!
-
Jerry
Title: Message
http://nscpcw.physics.upenn.edu/db2_docs/
could
be useful. i'm still trying to get a free trial copy of
db2...
-Original Message-From: Cunningham, Gerald
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Title: Message
DB2
Manuals at : http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/db2/library/
-Original Message-From: Cunningham, Gerald
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002
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DB2
Hi
there,
Does anybody
Title: Message
http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/category.jsp?s=ccat=data
Contains a free Personal DB2 download and a trial of
UDB
-Original Message-From: Jon Baker
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PMTo: Multiple recipients of list
Title: Message
A
quick google search for "IBM DB2 Documentation" turns up
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/db2/library/
Why
doesn't everbody Google?
-Original Message-From: Jon Baker
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PMTo: Multiple
Database Services.
HTH
Mark
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Peter
Sent: 04 February 2002 21:11
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We are working on an application which runs under AIX, using
Oracle which needs access to some data stored in a legacy app
using DB2 on OS/390. Is it possible
We are working on an application which runs under AIX, using
Oracle which needs access to some data stored in a legacy app
using DB2 on OS/390. Is it possible to create a DBLink in
the Oracle database so that we can query from the DB2 instance?
thanks,
Peter Schauss
Northrop Grumman
Peter,
Do you have an ODBC driver for the DB2 instance that works on AIX?
If you have one or can get one then you may be able to use Oracle's free Heterogeneous
services.
See for example:
Metalink note 114820.1 helpful - QUICK START GUIDE: WIN NT - Generic Connectivity
using ODBC
Also note
Schauss, Peter wrote:
We are working on an application which runs under AIX, using
Oracle which needs access to some data stored in a legacy app
using DB2 on OS/390. Is it possible to create a DBLink in
the Oracle database so that we can query from the DB2 instance?
thanks,
Peter
After my request
last night I found the following link for online docs for DB2
admin.
http://www-4.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/data/db2/udb/winos2unix/support/document.d2w/report?fn=db2v7d0frm3toc.htm
Regards
Lee
The information contained in this communication is
confidential, is intended only
check out these:
DB2 Developer
Domain
DB2 links at SearchDatabase.com (faqs + mail
lists)IBM
DB2
DB2 knowledge base - DB2 Universal Database
DB2 Magazine - http://www.db2mag.com/
hth,
marin
"...what you brought from your past, is of
n
Hi,
It would appear that I am going to be taking over suppport of a DB2 database
on AIX in the near future. Anyone done this before and is aware of
similarities and gotchas etc.
Any useful mailing lists/links/white papers/book recommendations etc. would
be great.
Lee
The information
, is the DB2 database on NT, Unix or a mainframe? My
DB2 knowledge is more on the mainframe side and the Unix/NT
implementations may be easier to deal with... But, that being said
If you need the data in a real time manner then the Transparent Gateway
may be your best bet...
http://technet.oracle.com
Title: RE: Link to DB2
That probably depends on what you need the link for... Can you further define the requirement of what you are trying to do?
Tim
PS - I have no experience with them but Oracle does offer Transparent Gateways to other dbms platforms... I'm not 100% sure but I think DB2
Title: RE: Link to DB2
Tim,
We
have an oracle database(8.1.6) on NT2k and we need retrieve some records from
another database DB2 and after some processing on these records store it in our
database, these all will be doing thru an web base
application.
I am
looking for the best solution
It depends. In some cases you might be ok writing
flat files and using SQLLOADER. There are gateways
to DB2, we are using DRDA. You set up the
information about the gateway in the tnsnames, and
create a database link to the DB2 database.
HTH
Mike Boligan
-Message d'origine-
De: Hamid
Title: RE: Link to DB2
Hamid;
We have have very good success using Oracles Transparent Gateway for
DRDA.
We
even had replication happening from the DB2 database down to the Oracle database
with no problems.
We
started with it on Oracle 7.3.4 back in '97 and, the last time I asked
Title: RE: Link to DB2
Out of
curiosity, is the DB2 database on NT, Unix or a mainframe? My DB2
knowledge is more on the mainframe side and the Unix/NT implementations may be
easier to deal with... But, that being said
If you
need the data in a real time mannerthen the Transparent
Title: RE: Link to DB2
Small
web application connected to DB2 and URL that will send a XML file to Oracle
when it it'srequested from Oracle Servermight be good
solution.
Regards,
Waleed
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is that part of Larry's reducing complexity thangy?
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Subject: Oracle VS. DB2
Any comment on the following:
IBM enlists ISVs in war
Back to DB/2
http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO63350_NLTAM%2C00.html
JP
Dne út 28. srpen 2001 17:46 jste napsal(a):
If it ain't broke...
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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:11 PM
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One friend of mine working
with independent software vendors have helped IBM gain
new
customers for its DB2 database software. IBM also appears to be getting help
from an unlikely source: Oracle Corp.
http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO63350_NLTAM%2C00.html
Personally, I believe they've hit the nail straight
enlists ISVs in war against Oracle
Strategic alliances with independent software vendors have helped IBM gain
new
customers for its DB2 database software. IBM also appears to be getting help
from an unlikely source: Oracle Corp.
http://computerworld.com/nlt/1%2C3590%2CNAV47_STO63350_NLTAM%2C00.html
Yup. Seems to me the worst thing that has happened to Oracle is when Ray
Lane quit. Now Larry is a loose cannon.
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana
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Time will tell. But it appears that
Errr...well, I read an article about Larry and Oracle from some business
magazine. Basically, Larry was in a sailboat race, and had a near death
experience. So when he came back, he decided to live life to the fullest.
He started stripping power from execs, wanting to make the call on
I can't believe it, they have a beta DB2 v.7.1. for OS/2, same release
number as for AIX.
I thought that OS was dead!
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
Isn't OS/2 still used extensively by banks to run ATM's? If that's the case,
then IBM would have a vested interest in keeping DB2 current on OS/2.
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana
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Isn't OS/2 still used extensively by banks to run ATM's? If that's
the case,
then IBM would have
, August 27, 2001 3:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: OT - DB2 for OS/2
Isn't OS/2 still used extensively by banks to run ATM's? If that's
the case,
then IBM would have a vested interest in keeping DB2 current on
OS/2.
--Walt
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Subject:RE: OT - DB2 for OS/2
Does DB2 store data as EBCDIC or ASCII?
Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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If you're talking DB2 on OS/390, the default is EBCDIC but as of DB2 V5, the
default could be changed to ASCII on a table per table basis.
FT
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Hello Guru.
I plan to compare IBM DB2 Db with Oracle 8i, anyone of you know did they
actually give out their database on the web for us to download ? any site
can refer ?
Raymond Lee
Infopro Sdn Bhd
Block B3 Level 8, Leisure Commerce Square
No. 9, Jalan PJS 8/9 46150 Petaling Jaya
mess with DB2
The common question used to be, Oracle?, or Informix or Sybase?
Now mentions of DB2 keep popping up.
Hmmm
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I'm having my first brush with it and it's a bit of a shift. Seeing as IBM now
own Informix I'd expect them to rip off its features and incorporate them into
DB2.
First impressions are that it's easy to set up a default database but not as
tunable as Oracle but having said that I'm at no great
Hi people,
A few weeks back somebody posted a message regarding an eval they are doing
comparing Oracle/DB2/SQLServer.
I came across a great document today for an Oracle/DB2 comparison, so if
that person - sorry I can't remember who it was - is interested, contact me
back channel, and I'll send
I wouldn't mind a copy of that doc Mark?
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Hi people,
A few weeks back somebody posted a message regarding an eval they are doing
comparing Oracle/DB2/SQLServer.
I came across a great document today
ORACLE-L
I wouldn't mind a copy of that doc Mark?
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Hi people,
A few weeks back somebody posted a message regarding an eval they are doing
comparing Oracle/DB2/SQLServer.
I came across a great document
To fan the flames, a colleague here sent me this URL re. Oracle on the
DB2/Informix deal:
http://www.oracle.com/start/apr30informix/intro.html
http://www.oracle.com/start/apr30informix/intro.html
: )
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et
Tim,
Thanks for the copy of the marketing speil, I had not heard that one before.
But, I'll take great exception to the claim that:
It would make sense to select a database product based on price alone if
database products were the predominant part of the overall information
technology
Subject:RE: Oracle vs DB2
I just bought 3 STANDARD UPC server licenses for our site. We saved
275K by
not using Enterprise. Email me if you want the details. Walt is
right, they
are lying to you. (The concept of trusting salespersons for
technical
issues
in how the WE Internet Access works.
The 1-user license + WE = a legal DB2 web-database. This according to the
IBM salescritter. Got it on paper, too. :-)
We had some IBM guys in here late last year, and they couldn't give us any
better pricing than what we could get Oracle Standard Edition
I too would love to see somebody give Oracle a reality check in regards to
the prices of their software, but as much as I hate to say it, I just don't
see it happening. Why? Because the ONLY reality check that Oracle is going
to actually LISTEN to and do something about would be for people to
take more Oracle
courses!
I don't know what will happen with Informix then, does that mean they will
gobble it up and DB2 will be the only option in a couple of years?
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
: Oracle vs DB2
Reportedly what IBM did here some years ago, was sell a
mainframe hardware package (for a COBOL/VSAM package) within
the University system's budget constraints.
Turned out that to actually run the application, several
millions of $ of additional goodies were needed
could take
|| more Oracle
|| courses!
||
|| I don't know what will happen with Informix then, does that
|| mean they will
|| gobble it up and DB2 will be the only option in a couple of years?
||
|| Regards,
|| Patrice Boivin
|| Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
||
|| Systems Admin
This sorta reminds me of the answer I got when I asked why
Oracle thought that they deserved all the extra money they
were going to get from increasing annual support costs during
the Oracle6 - Oracle7 days (aprx. 50% increase each year
for at least a couple of years).
Oracle said that someone
The client I work for (for the next 2 weeks at least) just made the
decision to use UDB over Oracle due to the price of licenses from
Oracle. And this is a startup with a big ol' pile of capital. Go
figure, I thought startup's always picked the most expensive stuff.
They must be saving on the
I guess they can make their money by targeting the high end and having a few
high paying customers, or be more reasonable and have a broader base. I get
the feeling that Larry's ego (psychoanalysis from a distance, ain't it
wonderful) would drive him to both the $ and the broad base. If you are
/ a startup, go with the one of
the freebies. if the company was too cheap to buy the right product, time
to find a company w/ deeper pockets. now w/ ibm buying informix, merging w/
db2, they will have a new product called db4mix :). the free db's are fun
to play with but their skills don't pay
Disclaimer: I am *not* trying to start a religious war, and I am *not*
trying to advocate DB2. I am simply offended. Thus this post.
As some may remember, I'm doing an evaluation of Oracle vs DB2 vs SQLServer
to determine our future direction. Here's a datum that makes a significant
difference
they will
gobble it up and DB2 will be the only option in a couple of years?
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de
a religious war, and I am *not*
trying to advocate DB2. I am simply offended. Thus this post.
As some may remember, I'm doing an evaluation of Oracle vs DB2 vs SQLServer
to determine our future direction. Here's a datum that makes a significant
difference to us, dollar-wise.
With Oracle, in order
will happen with Informix then, does that mean they will
gobble it up and DB2 will be the only option in a couple of years?
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
) = Approx $160,000 Cdn.
IBM, for the same purpose, will sell you DB2 UDB Workgroup edition (1
user), and something called WE Internet Access, for a total price of $6000
Cdn. I have a written quote from an IBM salescritter to this effect.
$6000. $160,000. $6000. $160,000. Hm. Let me think.
I
Patrice,
I just read that from IBM's WEB site
(http://www.ibm.com/news/2001/04/24.phtml) for those interested. Looks like the
DB market in the near future will be Oracle DB2, with a little SQL*Server
sprinkled in for spice. My retirement fund may get better, but will I be able
to survive
Dennis,
First off I will totally agree with your last statement, Oracle is not in
line with the market needs a severe case of reality check across the board.
What their doing to my retirement fund is close to criminal.
But, I believe your comparing apples to oranges. DB2 UDB
Now we know how Oracle saved a billion $$ ??
Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc.
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upgrades and technical support) typically represent less than 15% of
an IT budget and are small compared to the overall costs of hardware, operations and
maintenance, consulting and training.
IBM DB2's Hidden Costs
IBM never talks about the hidden costs of running an application on DB2:
DB2
At 01:13 PM 4/24/01 -0400, you wrote:
But, I believe your comparing apples to oranges. DB2 UDB Workgroup is
not
the equal of Oracle Enterprise. If you want to compare apples apples, try
Yes, but in order to put an Oracle database on the web, I HAVE TO USE
ENTERPRISE EDITION
Maybe I am wrong here but..
My understanding is that you can use standard or enterprise for any
appication you wish.
If your application communicates with the Web/internet, you have to license
the
product based on UPU's; they will not accept a named user license.
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