RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-07 Thread Keith Peterson
via ActiveDesigner/ActiveChangeManager...just click on icon privileges and grant "truncate" only ref: http://www.iraje.com/acc_changemanagermain.htm Keith Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 18:28:25 -0800 To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organizat

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-07 Thread Yechiel Adar
On Behalf Of "Kimberly Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:28 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > Hey, how do you give that truncate only privilege > > > -- Please

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-07 Thread Yechiel Adar
Hello Kieth you wrote: It would have been better to give your developer "truncate" only privileges, You mean: grant truncate on owner.table to user. No such grant. The closest I could find is: Create procedure that truncate the table as the owner and grant execute on the procedure to the user.

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-07 Thread johanna . doran
02 10:28 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > Hey, how do you give that truncate only privilege > > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fa

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-06 Thread Kimberly Smith
Hey, how do you give that truncate only privilege -Original Message- Peterson Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L this is exactly my point. It would have been better to give your developer "truncate" only privileges, and that too only on a

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-06 Thread Ron Rogers
Yechiel, How did you give a "responsible person" the ability to truncate a table without granting "delete any table". Very dangerious. There was a long dicsussion on the list a while ago that displayed the dangers of such a grant. I think it was followed up with an "update your resume" statement

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-06 Thread Keith Peterson
this is exactly my point. It would have been better to give your developer "truncate" only privileges, and that too only on a few tables... but NEVER the Oracle schema owner password! NEVER. But, you too gave it away! you too Brutus! Even though you are quite averse to doing so. Think about it

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-06 Thread Keith Peterson
Yechiel, here is additional information: white paper: http://www.iraje.com/docs/ActiveSecureDesigner.htm WEBCAMS (4-6 mins) and screenshots: ActiveChangeManager: http://www.iraje.com/ActiveChangeManager_viewlet.html http://www.iraje.com/acommanbig.htm ActiveCompare: http://www.iraje.com/Active

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-05 Thread Koivu, Lisa
nal Message- > From: Yechiel Adar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 7:48 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > Well , just to keep things jumping. > > Last week I deviated from our rul

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-05 Thread Yechiel Adar
Well , just to keep things jumping. Last week I deviated from our rule and gave a responsible user that needed truncate on tables the password for the owner of the schema. Guess what? Today he comes to me to recreate 2 tables that he dropped. Go figure. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Mes

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-04 Thread Larry Elkins
cipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > > Yechiel, > Yes, I have been there, done that, over and over... > But then, there is a "Toyota Corolla" solution and > maybe a "Ferrari Testarosa" solution. > > If we can cont

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-03 Thread Keith Peterson
Yechiel, Yes, I have been there, done that, over and over... But then, there is a "Toyota Corolla" solution and maybe a "Ferrari Testarosa" solution. If we can control "Dom Phoc" without tieing his hands behind the back, wouldn't that would be the best: white paper: http://www.iraje.com/docs/Act

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-02 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 > -Original Message- > From: Yechiel Adar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > Well Keith > > Our s

Re: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-02 Thread Yechiel Adar
Well Keith Our solution to the is: Do not grant they rights to do any DDL either in test nor in prod. The dab stuff does all the DDL work. Sure it is an added chore, but after tracking down, a few times, tables that were dropped inadvertently by users (their tool did it by itself) we now use t

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-02 Thread Koivu, Lisa
t; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > Lisa, > There is only so much you can control via a model, > since it remains a process away from the DB, and > cannot be enforced via privileges, etc. So, we are > always in the

RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM

2002-05-02 Thread Keith Peterson
Lisa, There is only so much you can control via a model, since it remains a process away from the DB, and cannot be enforced via privileges, etc. So, we are always in the hands of Dom Phoc (and their siblings), who can do "stuff" even in the production database with SQLPLus/TOAD/... Under this s