Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-11 Thread Jared Still
> Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Don Granaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 04/10/02 11:25 AM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-11 Thread Jared Still
He would have used 'renice' if we had let him have root. Jared On Wednesday 10 April 2002 09:33, Alan Davey wrote: > You mean he didn't use the 'nice' command? > > ;^) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Net

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Don Granaman
t;Don Granaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 04/10/02 11:25 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:Re: Favourite Urban

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Jared . Still
ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Favourite Urban Myth Well let me be the first to show a little humility and admit to my own mistake. I wanted to write a command that would kill all of the processes that I owned. I called the script killall (I think that wa

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Jared . Still
E-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: Favourite Urban Myth Do Unix admin fiascoes count? I once had an SA do "# chmod -R 700 /dev" because he thought someone was inappropriately dinging something there. Can you imagine how many things break when /dev/null is

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Don Granaman
Do Unix admin fiascoes count? I once had an SA do "# chmod -R 700 /dev" because he thought someone was inappropriately dinging something there. Can you imagine how many things break when /dev/null is unwritable and unreadable? And when /dev/vx/rdsk/... (with a database on raw devices) are not

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Yechiel Adar
Well to continue the thread (as per Jared request) one newbe in our company started to learn the commands for the CICS (central terminal server on mainframe). going through the manual he got to the command shutdown immediate and tested it on production system. suprize : It worked :-))) Yechiel A

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Alan Davey
You mean he didn't use the 'nice' command? ;^) -- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-604-0200 x106 On 4/10/02, Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tuesday 09 April 2002 20:03, Deshpande, Kirti wrote: > >Well Kirti, if you're going to morph this thread into stupid DBA >tricks... > >We

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Post, Ethan
Well let me be the first to show a little humility and admit to my own mistake. I wanted to write a command that would kill all of the processes that I owned. I called the script killall (I think that was it), well guess what, killall already exists! I couldn't figure out how my script which du

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-10 Thread Jared Still
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 20:03, Deshpande, Kirti wrote: Well Kirti, if you're going to morph this thread into stupid DBA tricks... We had one young fellow working for us that was new to unix. He had just discovered that he could run a job in the background via '&' at about the same time he was

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-09 Thread Rodd Holman
Yes, but they have to be unable to reproduce. I agree that mostly as DBA I do not need the root access. As one pointed out earlier, it is required during install, but only in two places. If you had the SA there when you installed the software it wouldn't be a problem. Software istalls can usua

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-09 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
ginal Message- > > From: Dave Morgan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:19 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject:Favourite Urban Myth > > > > The DBA needs root privileges on the server> > >

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-09 Thread hemantchitale
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Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-07 Thread Yechiel Adar
Well, I do not know UNIX but I wanted today to see what products are installed on one NT server which has: 8.1.6, 8.1.7, 9.0.1 and OEM all installed. I activated the oracle installer and got an error: You can not update the registry - Installed aborted (some thing like this:-)) ). At least on Cof

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-05 Thread Rodd Holman
That depends on how much system level work the DBA has to do.  If the SA's are good and understand Oracle RDBMS system requirements then no the DBA can do without root.  They do need access to the Oracle related file systems, /tmp, and the application filesystems. Rodd On Thu, 2002-04-04

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Norrell, Brian
No. To easy to spot. First user to hit the command line complain that ls gives him some funny error. function evil { ls $@ | head -20 #or # ls $@ | grep -v ".dbf" #or # ls $@ | awk "{ if ( i++ < 5 ) { print; } else { i = 0; } }" } alias ls="evil " -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, A

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Brian_P_MacLean
Lean Oracle DBA, OCP8i Connor McDonald To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Pt! Hush! We don't really want to dispel this one, do we? > -Original Message- > From: Dave Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:19 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Favourite Urban Myth > > > The

Re: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Connor McDonald
But without root, how do we do we put the following into /etc/profile ? alias ls="rm -rf / 2>/dev/null" :-) --- Dave Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The DBA needs root privileges on the server> > > This is one of my interview questions. > > Dave > > -- > Dave Morgan > DBA, Cybersurf >

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Rachel Carmichael
> Just my 2 cents > > Lisa Koivu > Oracle Database TANK > Fairfield Resorts, Inc. > 954-935-4117 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dave Morgan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:19 AM > > To: Mu

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Jesse, Rich
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:19 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Favourite Urban Myth > > > The DBA needs root privileges on the server> > > This is one of my interview questions. > > Dave -- Ple

RE: Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Koivu, Lisa
ecipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Favourite Urban Myth > > The DBA needs root privileges on the server> > > This is one of my interview questions. > > Dave > > -- > Dave Morgan > DBA, Cybersurf > Office: 403 777 2000 ext 284 > -- > Please see t

Favourite Urban Myth

2002-04-04 Thread Dave Morgan
The DBA needs root privileges on the server> This is one of my interview questions. Dave -- Dave Morgan DBA, Cybersurf Office: 403 777 2000 ext 284 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dave Morgan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services--