RE: Hot backups

2003-03-11 Thread Dong, Ping - Raleigh, NC
ps? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am implementing hot backups on a small development database using the following approach: 1. From sqlpl

RE: Hot backups

2003-03-11 Thread Schauss, Peter
AFTER completing tablespace backups? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am implementing hot backups on a small development database using the foll

Re: Hot backups

2003-03-10 Thread Charlie_Mengler
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RE: Hot backups

2003-03-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Peter - Shouldn't you backup the controlfile AFTER completing tablespace backups? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 2:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am implementing hot backu

Hot backups

2003-03-10 Thread Schauss, Peter
I am implementing hot backups on a small development database using the following approach: 1. From sqlplus: backup controlfile to ''; 2. For each tablespace - sqlplus: alter tablespace begin backup; - shell: copy files for that tablespace - sqlplus: alter table

RE: Hot Backups or RMAN

2003-02-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ed In my opinion, it comes down to: If you have hot backup running very well on an existing system, stick with it. Otherwise use RMAN. Technically, hot backups can create more redo records, while RMAN has negligible affect on the production system, near as I can tell. Dennis Williams DBA

Re: Hot Backups or RMAN

2003-02-20 Thread Connor McDonald
If you are using the media management layer (ie rman talks to tape devices) then you can't beat rman. If rman is just dumping to disk, and these are going to tape manually *and* you only want the most recent backup, then you can't beat rman If you want to be able to restore from various points in

Re: Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot backups

2003-02-19 Thread Jared . Still
-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot backups My manager asked me to assess how much smaller our backups would be if we were doing incremental backups of our data

Hot Backups or RMAN

2003-02-19 Thread Ed
I'm sure this topic has come up before. I don't need to know the difference between these backup methods. I am more curious about which is preferred. >From what I can tell, I'd be a fool not to use RMAN whenever possible. What experiences have you all had with these in production environments

Veritas Agent for Oracle / incremental backups vs. hot backups

2003-02-19 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
My manager asked me to assess how much smaller our backups would be if we were doing incremental backups of our database files, instead of the usual hot backups. We are running 8i on UNIX. I know that the answer is "it depends" and "you can't really know 'till you try&

Re: What is minimum privs to have user do hot backups

2003-02-07 Thread Suzy Vordos
Here's what I've used: create session select_catalog_role alter database alter tablespace alter system [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi All, > > If I create a backup user, what is the minimum requirements to connect as > that user and do hot backups? > > Thanks

What is minimum privs to have user do hot backups

2003-02-06 Thread Rick_Cale
Hi All, If I create a backup user, what is the minimum requirements to connect as that user and do hot backups? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com

Re: Hot backups vs RMAN, the rebuttal

2003-02-06 Thread Dave Morgan
a lot of time and tape. > > RMAN backs up blocks, hot backup backs up files. Agreed Yet many sites do not have this pressure on their backup window. These sites often panic when one of the incrementals is corrupt/not found. Mind you the same thing happens with hot backups, "What do y

Re: Hot backups vs RMAN, the rebuttal

2003-02-06 Thread Jared Still
ouple of StorageTek silos: you don't really want to browse that to get all the correct files for a database. Try it when you have several hundred files. Dave, it seems that you do work for clients scattered all around, hot backups probably works best for you. Yes, RMAN adds some complexity

Hot backups vs RMAN, the rebuttal

2003-02-04 Thread Dave Morgan
posted a simple shell (bourne) script with environment file that does dynamic hot backups to disk and has been tested on Oracle versions 6 through 9 and on Solaris, Linux, AIX, SGI and HP. I have heard from another that she had it running under CGWIN on Windoze. Advantages: dep

RE: GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-18 Thread Ji, Richard
You are welcome. :) -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My humble apologies to the list... He checked the backup script... host gzip -cf1 /disk2/oradata/rcdc/system.dbf > /disk1/orabkup/rcdc/system.gz Good call Richard..

RE: GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-18 Thread Grabowy, Chris
My humble apologies to the list... He checked the backup script... host gzip -cf1 /disk2/oradata/rcdc/system.dbf > /disk1/orabkup/rcdc/system.gz Good call Richard... There was a junior DBA that he was training that had setup the backup script. Oh well. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. A b

RE: GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-18 Thread Bishop Lewis
>From what i remember Winzip has a file limit of 4gb... Lewis Bishop --- Barclays Enable/ISS/OPTS Oracle Database Consultant Phone: 020 8298 3418 Mobile: 07950 380857 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 20:24 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This he

Re: GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-17 Thread Jared . Still
s of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: GZip/WinZip...hot backups... A fellow DBA had mentioned that during his disaster recovery test, gzip had unzipped his Solaris files but did not restore the .dbf extension. Thus leaving him to manually rename his f

RE: GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-17 Thread Ji, Richard
If you gzip a .dbf file, you get .dbf.gz extension. Is that what he was doing? What's the full filename after gzipped? Richard -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L A fellow DBA had mentioned that during his disaster recover

GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-17 Thread Grabowy, Chris
A fellow DBA had mentioned that during his disaster recovery test, gzip had unzipped his Solaris files but did not restore the .dbf extension. Thus leaving him to manually rename his files to include a .dbf extension. He examined the gzip man pages but could not find any flags to set or anything

Re: HOT BACKUPS

2002-03-13 Thread Gene Sais
Step 7 & 8 has always generated difference of opinions :-). And you are right, I forgot to mention step 9. Archives are backed up to tape 4x day (10gb/day). Thanks! Gene >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/02 01:21PM >>> I would swap 7) and 8): "backup control file" then "alter system archive log cu

HOT BACKUPS

2002-03-07 Thread Charlie Mengler
Here is what worked for me this morning. + sqlplus -s + 0<< sys/syss set pause off feedback off pages 0 echo off spool CCC_begin_hot_backups.sql SELECT 'ALTER TABLESPACE ' || TABLESPACE_NAME || ' BEGIN BACKUP;' FROM DBA_TABLESPACES; SPOOL OFF @CCC_begin_hot_backups.sql EXIT ALTER TABLESPACE SYST

Re: HOT BACKUPS

2002-03-07 Thread Gene Sais
Step 7 & 8 has always generated difference of opinions :-). And you are right, I forgot to mention step 9. Archives are backed up to tape 4x day (10gb/day). Thanks! Gene >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/02 01:21PM >>> I would swap 7) and 8): "backup control file" then "alter system archive log cu

Re: HOT BACKUPS

2002-03-07 Thread Igor Neyman
I would swap 7) and 8): "backup control file" then "alter system archive log current". You also didn't mention step 9: copy archived logs onto backup destination media. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECT

HOT BACKUPS

2002-03-07 Thread Gene Sais
I know this has been mentioned on the list before, but for my sanity check, will this Hot Backup Method work? 1) Alter system archive log current ; not really needed but can't hurt. 2) Check backup status. 3) Generate datafile listing to be used by step 5. 4) Alter tablespace begin backup ; 5)

Re: FW:Using Oracle tools to automate hot backups...

2001-09-14 Thread Ruth Gramolini
ouched by the terrorist attack on the US and anger towards the cowards who > would go to such extremes to achieve their goals. > Life is real. Life is a journey, we must complete it. > Peace!! > > > We are running Oracle 8.0.5 on NT in ARCHIVELOGMODE. > I recently scheduled three da

FW:Using Oracle tools to automate hot backups...

2001-09-14 Thread Denmark Weatherburne
ourney, we must complete it. Peace!! We are running Oracle 8.0.5 on NT in ARCHIVELOGMODE. I recently scheduled three daily hot backups to disk. The process is as follows: 1.) Perl script moves the old backup folders and creates the three daily folders that hold the hot backups to disk 2.) Batch fil

Re: Build a duplicate DB using hot backups

2001-03-04 Thread Chuan Zhang
ou need to edit that script to suit your needs. > > HTH > Gerardo > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:01 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Hi, DBAs, > > I want to build a duplicate DB of the production DB using

RE: Build a duplicate DB using hot backups

2001-03-02 Thread SHAIBAL TALUKDER
CLE-LHi, DBAs,I want to build a duplicate DB of the production DB using the hot backupswithout RMAN.Redo online log files are not included in the hot backups according toOracle recommendation.The control file is modified to suit for the new host configuration. When Ilog into svrmgrl and run this new c

RE: Build a duplicate DB using hot backups

2001-03-01 Thread Molina, Gerardo
. HTH Gerardo -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, DBAs, I want to build a duplicate DB of the production DB using the hot backups without RMAN. Redo online log files are not included in the hot backups according to Oracle reco

Build a duplicate DB using hot backups

2001-03-01 Thread Chuan Zhang
Hi, DBAs,     I want to build a duplicate DB of the production DB using the hot backups without RMAN. Redo online log files are not included in the hot backups according to Oracle recommendation. The control file is modified to suit for the new host configuration.  When I log into svrmgrl