Need info on HP Proliant ML 350, on installing Oracle 8i and 9i, urgent.. please

2004-01-09 Thread Wendry
Hi all, I'd like to ask you about any steps that I should do additionally on installing oracle 8.1.6.0.0 and 9i on server HP proliant ML 350, with os of windows 2000. I need to get this working by 2 days. So I really need help on this, thanks. Regards Wendry. -- Please see the official

Need info on HP Proliant ML 350, on installing Oracle 8i and 9i, urgent.. please

2004-01-09 Thread Wendry
Hi all, I'd like to ask you about any steps that I should do additionally on installing oracle 8.1.6.0.0 and 9i on server HP proliant ML 350, with os of windows 2000. I need to get this working by 2 days. So I really need help on this, thanks. Regards Wendry. -- Please see the official

RE: Need info on HP Proliant ML 350, on installing Oracle 8i and 9i, urgent.. please

2004-01-09 Thread John Flack
For one thing, please don't install 8.1.6. Install at least 8.1.7 and upgrade it to 8.1.7.4. You will be much better off. Actually, providing your system meets or exceeds the minimum requirements stated in the installation manual, this install goes fairly easily. DO read the installation

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-17 Thread Les Ayudo
I'm going to go ahead w/ the Oracle 8i course. I spoke w/ the course instructor and he also advised me to take the 8i course because Oracle8i is what is out there. So my question is: Should I install Oracle 8i or 9i at home? What would u guys do? I would love to learn both. - Original

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-17 Thread Scott Stefick
course because Oracle8i is what is out there. So my question is: Should I install Oracle 8i or 9i at home? What would u guys do? I would love to learn both. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 5:23 AM hello

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-17 Thread Les Ayudo
with that at all. At 11:28 AM 2/17/03 -0800, you wrote: I'm going to go ahead w/ the Oracle 8i course. I spoke w/ the course instructor and he also advised me to take the 8i course because Oracle8i is what is out there. So my question is: Should I install Oracle 8i or 9i at home? What would u guys do

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-17 Thread netmadcap
going to go ahead w/ the Oracle 8i course. I spoke w/ the course instructor and he also advised me to take the 8i course because Oracle8i is what is out there. So my question is: Should I install Oracle 8i or 9i at home? What would u guys do? I would love to learn both. - Original Message

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-17 Thread david davis
] Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:28:58 -0800 I'm going to go ahead w/ the Oracle 8i course. I spoke w/ the course instructor and he also advised me to take the 8i course because Oracle8i is what is out there. So my question is: Should I install Oracle 8i or 9i at home

Re: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-17 Thread chao_ping
instructor and he also advised me to take the 8i course because Oracle8i is what is out there. So my question is: Should I install Oracle 8i or 9i at home? What would u guys do? I would love to learn both. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-16 Thread Markus Reger
seem overwhelming. From: Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ? Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:33:39 -0800 Is 9i a lot more difficult to learn than 8i? Can i use what I learned on 8i on 9i

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-15 Thread david davis
that is using it. Though going the 8i classes then upgrading to 9i does feel like a lot of work. Something I hate. :-) David Davis Manulife Financial From: Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-15 Thread Les Ayudo
like a lot of work. Something I hate. :-) David Davis Manulife Financial From: Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:53:46 -0800 Thanks, that got me

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-15 Thread david davis
CD's. It can seem overwhelming. From: Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ? Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 17:33:39 -0800 Is 9i a lot more difficult to learn than 8i? Can i use what I learned

Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Hello, I'm thinking of going to school to get Oracle certified. There are 2 schools in my area that are offering Oracle certs but one offers Oracle 8i courses w/ an upgrade to 9i, while the other offers all 9i courses. If i go to the schools who offers 9i courses, would I miss out on

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Gene Sais
Not to depress you, but at this time, in Florida the DBA job market is dismal. The best way to move into a DBA job would be do it within your current organization, i.e. move from developer/sys admin/etc. to DBA. It would be difficult for an organization to hire a newbie DBA from the

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Scott Stefick
Les, It depends on what version of Oracle Databases you will be working with. You won't miss out on information going through the 9i Class because they will go over features from 8i as well. They are conclusive of features that have been available before 9i (as long as they are still in 9i). The

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Boyle Candi
I have many opinions on certifications... :). First and foremost, why are you interested in studying Oracle? Is it for the money, or are you truly interested in working with it? Do you have any experience? If you aren't sure what you want to do, I suggest learning quite a bit on your own

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Lyndon Tiu
9i will cost you more in the long run because you have to take 4 exams at $150 each plus a $3000 course to get OCP. 8i then upgrade to 9i will cost you less but requires you to take up to 6 exams at $150 each but no more $3000 course. -- Lyndon Tiu Quoting Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Les - I think the demand isn't so good right now, but the whole tech field is a little depressed. If you can tell a little more about your background, we could help more, like whether this sounds like a logical next career step for you. The demand varies a lot by the area of the country, so

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Chris Stephens
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? The $3000 is true if he takes them through 'oracle' university but not if the local community college offers the classes. What I did (and it seemed to work fine) for my 8i certification is to go to the community college bookstore and just buy the 'official

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
School A (www.idtnetwork)which is offering the Oracle 9i cert will cost me $3595 and does not include the tests. They told me they are an Oracle University and they are the only ones (besides Oracle) that can give grant Oracle 9i certs. Is this true? The classes they are offering are: 1Z0007

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Tuning ..25 Backup Rec ...026 Netw Admin What would you guys choose? - Original Message - From: Lyndon Tiu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Les Ayudo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ? 9i will cost you more in the long

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? I'm more ofa windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foot in the door

Fw: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? I'm more ofa windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foot

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Dennis Heisler
Les, If you have the self-discipline, another option is to sign up for Oracle University's Professional Subscription. For $350/year, you can go through as many of the offered courses as you want, and OCP preparation is one of the options. The courses are self-paced and online, and each lesson

Fw: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Title: RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ? I'm more ofa windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here there for hte past 2yrs (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my certifcation as a way to get my foot

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Les - Here is an idea for you. Think up a trivial application for a database. Maybe your home albums or DVDs. Try to make it a little relational, like have an artist table. Force yourself to work with it. At the right time I was secretary of a bowling league, so each year I rewrote a league

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. Can i get some input on these 2 questions: What chances am I looking at to getting hired as a newbie DBA once I graduate? I want to get into the Ecommerce side of Oracle (connecting DBs to websites/portals?). Which certification/path

RE: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Les - Oh you wanted the hard questions answered as well. Given that you mentioned you were a MS sys admin, I'd say that would give you a leg up. A lot of shops have combined DBA/Sys admins for MS. That might be your easiest transition. I hate to say this, especially on this list, but you may want

Re: Oracle 8i or 9i ?

2003-02-14 Thread Les Ayudo
Thanks, that got me happy since I do have a couple years of windows experience ;) So now, i have 1 vote for oracle 8i and one for 9i. Any other opinions? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:54 PM Les - Oh you

Re: Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refused

2002-11-12 Thread Don Malzahn
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/2002 02:44 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refused All, Environment: HP-UX 11i We had Oracle 8i

RE: Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refused

2002-11-12 Thread Jim . Conboy
of list ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refusedAll,Environment:HP-UX 11iWe had Oracle 8i (8.1.7) running successfully on our one host. This host also has Oracle 9i AS already too.Then we installed Oracle 9i R2 (9.2.0.1) on the same host (to run RMAN

Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refused

2002-11-11 Thread Don Malzahn
All, Environment: HP-UX 11i We had Oracle 8i (8.1.7) running successfully on our one host. This host also has Oracle 9i AS already too. Then we installed Oracle 9i R2 (9.2.0.1) on the same host (to run RMAN backup and recovery on another host). Since then our one application (FAMIS from PRISM)

Re: Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refused

2002-11-11 Thread Jared . Still
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/11/2002 02:44 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Oracle 8i DB, 9i DB and 9iAS on same Unix box, refused All, Environment: HP-UX 11i We had Oracle 8i (8.1.7

HELP : doubts regarding --- Tablespace ,Roll Segment , diff between oracle 8i and 9i, and between oracle 8i and previous versions - urgent

2001-11-27 Thread sangeetha
hi list, i enrolled in this list jus today and it was really nice to see the questions and the responses that were posted.here i've got few doubts.if possible plz do clear them as soon as possible, as comming nov 30th is my project presentation. 1)If a tablespace is deleted will

RE: HELP : doubts regarding --- Tablespace ,Roll Segment , diff between oracle 8i and 9i, and between oracle 8i and previous versions - urgent

2001-11-27 Thread Mark Leith
8i and 9i, and between oracle 8i and previous versions - urgent hi list, i enrolled in this list jus today and it was really nice to see the questions and the responses that were posted.here i've got few doubts.if possible plz do clear them as soon as possible, as comming nov 30th

Oracle 8i vs. 9i on linux.

2001-11-20 Thread Jesse W. Asher
I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about which version of either 8i or 9i would be better to run on Linux? 9i seems to support larger database files, but I'm wondering if I would be giving anything up to move from 8i. Any thoughts? Thanks! -- Jesse W. Asher They that can give up

Re: Oracle 8i vs. 9i on linux.

2001-11-20 Thread Edward Shevtsov
Jesse, we're working on Linux. Stability is the first thing you should consider while choosing right version of Oracle for a production system (especially on Linux). I would do hara-kiri myself if my boss told me migrate on 9i now. Regards, Ed I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts

Re: Oracle 8i vs. 9i on linux - stablility issues with 9i?

2001-11-20 Thread Jesse W. Asher
So, you believe there are stability problems with 9i on Linux? Anyon else have similiar experiences?? Edward Shevtsov wrote: Jesse,we're working on Linux. Stability is the first thing you should considerwhile choosing right version of Oracle for a production system (especiallyon Linux).I