Title: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...
Very
stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle purchasing
decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that will most certainly
have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't need me anymore? I'll switc
On Fri, 25 May 2001,Gary Weber scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
->Very stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle
->purchasing decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that
->will most certainly have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't need
->
ve got a PBS mind in an MTV world
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-Original Message-From: Gary Weber
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:27
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
Fire your DBA's you don&
They conveniently forget that most of the tasks
of many DBAs consist in responding to requests
from developers that need to be actioned immediately,
not via telephone or e-mails. But then again, their
"superior" support staff should be able to "proactively"
predict these? ;-)
Sounds like anoth
consulting services - onsite all the time. Sure that would be cheaper
than having a DBA on staff ... ;-)
Rodd Holman
Original Message dated 5/25/01, 12:28:53 PM
Author: "Vergara," Michael "(TEM)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymo
I passed Gary's e-mail around the office and we all had a good laugh.
Our consensus was; the support Oracle already provides, our DB's would
be down for ages every time there was a problem and the solution would
be to recreate the DB.
Terry
Gary Weber wrote:
> Very stupid thing to do by Oracl
I've just spent most of today repairing damage left at a site by some
of Oracle's 'superior' consultants!
At 8:27 -0800 25/5/01, Gary Weber wrote:
>Far as their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different
>people from the ones you get on first line of Support...
Cheers
Paul Miller
8 PM
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> I've just spent most of today repairing damage left at a site by some
> of Oracle's 'superior' consultants!
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> At 8:27 -0800
If the i-DBA team walks the walk and talks the talk and convinces your damagement to
"let them house your database needs" then they can provide full attention to it and
have it running as "smooth and reliable as Metal-slink"
Read all of the fine and super-fine print and don't forget to threat,
hater,
William" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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to do a delight."
Henry
-Original Message-From: Vergara, Michael (TEM)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:29
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Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...
I can remember as far back as version 7.3
recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...
Very
stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle purchasing
decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that will most
certainly have an effect on Ora
I need to find the article I had saved about Oracle 6.0 (as we were preparing to
upgrade from 5.1). It was something about how the 6.0 DBA would be bored and would now
be able to help appdev.
Cheers,
Earl
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TheOracleDBA
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On Fri, 25 May 2001 09:28:53
Vergara, Michael
What a hoot! I mean all these wild statements about not needing DBA's
anymore (or sometime in the future). Is Oracle actually getting simpler
with each new release? With tongue firmly planted in cheek, here is the
Oracle 5.1 DBA "OCP" exam. You be the judge...
Q1) How do you cold start an ins
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> I've just spent most of today repairing damage left at a site by some
> of Oracle's 'superior
t; Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:58 PM
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> I've just spent most of today repairing damage left at a site by some
> of Oracle's 'superior' consu
e Support,
and I do this all the time too, I just want to put in a good word
for SOME of my old friends.
Have a great weekend.
Yosi
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> Yosi,
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> I interviewed for one of those jobs here i
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> Oracle charges for such guys 250-350 an hour and pay them 50-90K/year
> (15-20% bonus and
or what? I've got a migraine, the fiorinal didn't
do it's usual magic, and I really ought to go home.)
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> From: Hillman, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:08 PM
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l magic, and I really ought to go home.)
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:08 PM
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> And for those of us looking now, we know where
> the market is going, and Oracle's salaries are
> getting more in line with everyone else's anyway.
I'm about to start looking. Curious to know where you believe the market is
going.
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