Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-04 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Stephane, Three things I don't need to tell you about your example: Prior to CPU-costing in 9, the order of single table predicates can have a dramatic impact on CPU without changing the amount of logical I/O. Logical I/O should always include the statistics "buffer is pinned count" - it's just

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Karen Morton
Thanks Stephane (1000 pardons on the earlier spelling FO-PAH!). -Original Message- Faroult Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Karen Morton wrote: > > Stephanie, Cough, cough. > I've ran into the exact same thing that statistics don't alway

Re: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Stephane Faroult
Karen Morton wrote: > > Stephanie, Cough, cough. > I've ran into the exact same thing that statistics don't always tell the > real story and that the bottom-line has to be elapsed time. > > I am curious however as to how you wrote the best performing (fastest) > query. I have a client who uses

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Jesse, Rich
Once upon a time, I had a developer come to my desk complaining that their query ran very poorly that day, Monday, and that it ran fine on Friday. And since we had a snapshot of the DB as of that Friday, the dev showed me. The dev also said that the only change was that WE changed the statistics

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Karen Morton
Stephanie, I've ran into the exact same thing that statistics don't always tell the real story and that the bottom-line has to be elapsed time. I am curious however as to how you wrote the best performing (fastest) query. I have a client who uses the exact same structure and methodology you ment

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-02 Thread Goulet, Dick
Had to forward this to the "God of Obfuscated SQL" here. He in the past created a "select * from bom_with_assembly_steps" query in a Forms3 application that could take as long as an hour to complete. Something on similar lines to what you have. Thank GOD for Explain SQL/Platinum Plan Analyzer

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-01 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Congratulations Stephane -- a good lesson for us all. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The case is not as bad as the subject may let you believe, bu

RE: Lies, damn lies and statistics

2003-04-01 Thread Sarnowski, Chris
> -Original Message- > From: Stephane Faroult > > > A moral to the story? SET TIMING ON. What matters is elapsed time, not > stats. That said, I must check events next week. > Another lesson, which probably wouldn't make any difference in your case, is to run tests more than once, s