Oracle
has some internal site for "competetive" info. You can browse the oracle site www.oracle.com to start with. You can also
contact oracle "Sales" Consultants if know your Oracle Account Manager ( Sales
Rep). www.oracle.com may also have some
contact info ( for example some Telesales
hi!
db2 sites which i can strongly recommend are
http://www-3.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/data/db2/udb/winos2unix/support/v7pubs.d2w/en_main
and
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/db2/os390/v7books.html
i guess you will have a close look at V7 and V8, but V5 and V6
are also there and even V4 for
Mike,
Here is pro-IBM :) report:
http://www-3.ibm.com/software/data/pubs/papers/orac91vsdb272/orac91vsdb272.p
df
Alexandre
Hi Everyone!
Well, there's been a lot of Oracle vs. Microsoft traffic on the
list, but now my Manglement wants a similar comparison to IBM's
DB2.
Does anyone know
Mike
eWeek did a head-to-head comparison among the leading databases,
including Oracle and DB2. Oracle kicked butt.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,293,00.asp
In searching, I found an interesting site that provides links to all sorts
of database comparisons.
One thing that seems different to me: DBA's at the sites
we work in with DB2 seem to swear by it more than at it.
This is the reverse ratio I find at Oracle houses.
--
Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer
Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647
People like to work(and are more effective) in an environment they are
comfortable with, may it be Cobol Mainframe, RPG AS/400, MS SQL Server, MySQL,
Oracle or Sybase.
The point here is not which one is the best database, but which combination of
database and people(talent/skill) can give you
Even MS Access can fly to the moon if you have good people working it.
I wouldn't bet my money on that :-)
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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People like
But then this is an Oracle email list. What do you know, Oracle is da Best!!
Quoting Igor Neyman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Even MS Access can fly to the moon if you have good people working it.
I wouldn't bet my money on that :-)
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Don't take it so personal.
I agree, unskilled people can bring Oracle down to Access level.
But, there is no such skill, which can make Access perform at Oracle level
:-)
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Even MS Access can fly to the moon if you have good people working it.
...
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Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
For what I've read, globally the 2 databases are equal
in performance, reliability and functionnalities.
Larryh E as many times said that it's only competition
in the database market is DB2.
I guess it really depends on your environment.
Of course Oracle works on more OS (used to be anyway),
-- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/12/02 14:38:19 -0800
Hi Everyone!
Well, there's been a lot of Oracle vs. Microsoft traffic on the
list, but now my Manglement wants a similar comparison to IBM's
DB2.
Does anyone know of web sites or locations where there are
is that part of Larry's reducing complexity thangy?
[via: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2001, Number 241]
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:41:03 -0400
Subject: Oracle VS. DB2
Any comment on the following:
IBM enlists ISVs in war
Time will tell. But it appears that Larry burned quite a few bridges in the
past few months. Those third party Oracle apps(SAP, Peoplesoft, etc) were
bringing in easy money for Oracle. Building up the applications side of
Oracle is a good thing, but you dont jump up on the highest pedstal,
It seems like this is a problem which would naturally arise from selling
both databases and applications and is accentuated by Ellison's ego.
Henry
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Any comment on the following:
IBM
Yup. Seems to me the worst thing that has happened to Oracle is when Ray
Lane quit. Now Larry is a loose cannon.
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:27 PM
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Time will tell. But it appears that
Errr...well, I read an article about Larry and Oracle from some business
magazine. Basically, Larry was in a sailboat race, and had a near death
experience. So when he came back, he decided to live life to the fullest.
He started stripping power from execs, wanting to make the call on
To fan the flames, a colleague here sent me this URL re. Oracle on the
DB2/Informix deal:
http://www.oracle.com/start/apr30informix/intro.html
http://www.oracle.com/start/apr30informix/intro.html
: )
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et
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I just bought 3 STANDARD UPC server licenses for our site. We saved
275K by
not using Enterprise. Email me if you want the details. Walt is
right, they
are lying to you. (The concept of trusting salespersons for
technical
issues
You are absolutely correct. Oracle's getting this price because they can. I
wonder how much market share they will lose before Larry switches things
around?
When I asked my salescritter about this he said Well we sure are selling
alot of licenses - Go figure...
Thanks,
Frank
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: Oracle vs DB2
Reportedly what IBM did here some years ago, was sell a
mainframe hardware package (for a COBOL/VSAM package) within
the University system's budget constraints.
Turned out that to actually run the application, several
millions of $ of additional goodies were needed
|| When I asked my salescritter about this he said Well we
|| sure are selling alot of licenses - Go figure...
LoL...you know what I think? I think there was an INTERNAL memo
circulated around Oracle sales that basically acknowledged the
problem, and decided that DAMAGE CONTROL would be to give
This sorta reminds me of the answer I got when I asked why
Oracle thought that they deserved all the extra money they
were going to get from increasing annual support costs during
the Oracle6 - Oracle7 days (aprx. 50% increase each year
for at least a couple of years).
Oracle said that someone
The client I work for (for the next 2 weeks at least) just made the
decision to use UDB over Oracle due to the price of licenses from
Oracle. And this is a startup with a big ol' pile of capital. Go
figure, I thought startup's always picked the most expensive stuff.
They must be saving on the
I agree, MySQL is a good way to start out. That's what we did here. It's
fast and free. Our product runs with MySQL, SQL Server, and Oracle. The
MySQL version allows us to sell to companies that want to use our product
but could never afford an Oracle license.
But, when it comes to larger
Well,
This is on topic - www.wired.com http://www.wired.com today has an
article re. IBM announced that it is buying Informix for $1Billion.
Ah, if only I had that kind of money myself - I could take more Oracle
courses!
I don't know what will happen with Informix then, does that mean they
Why the enterprise license for Oracle?
Dennis Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 04/24/2001 10:57:11 AM
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Disclaimer: I am *not* trying to start a
Boivin,
Not true, when Oracle purchased Rdb from Digital 10 years ago. This was the
talk, Rdb will die in 7 years.
Today it is being enhanced every version/release.
SO DON'T KNOW, what IBM will do.
Murali Vallath
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Not true. You can use the Standard Edition for serving web pages. We're
doing it.
Costs much less than $160,000, although still more than $6,000 Cdn.
One thing I don't get: it's $6,000 Cdn for a 1-user license, right? How is a
1-user license going to do you any good if you're serving web
Now we know how Oracle saved a billion $$ ??
Raj
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Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc.
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc.
QOTD: Any clod can have
FYI, the Oracle Marketing spiel...
Price Does Not Equal Cost
Databases store, protect, manage and provide access to a company's most important
business asset * information. There is no other product that a company will buy that
has a greater effect on information systems. Selecting the wrong
Maybe I am wrong here but..
My understanding is that you can use standard or enterprise for any
appication you wish.
If your application communicates with the Web/internet, you have to license
the
product based on UPU's; they will not accept a named user license.
At 10:46 AM 4/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
Not true. You can use the Standard Edition for serving web pages. We're
doing it.
Yep. I've corrected myself on that in another email.
One thing I don't get: it's $6,000 Cdn for a 1-user license, right? How is a
1-user license going to do you any good if
I received a version of this from the salescritter as well, and went
through it with a fine-toothed comb. Some of the statements are simply
false. Some are value judgements expressed as imperative statements, with
no backup. Some may be true, but again, I'd like to see support for the
statement.
That's absolutely not true, Dennis. We've purchased Oracle Standard Edition
for serving web pages, and no one at Oracle told us we could not.
I think you need to find some other salescritters. You're being taken for a
ride.
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana, USA
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Sent:
Dennis,
The IBM Sales Critter hit the nail on the head by saying:
that in some cases, IBM is *giving* DB2 away, if there's enough ancillary
business (hardware, consulting, etc).
It's that ancillary business you better watch out for!! IBM is using DB2
as their Loss-Leader.
Ed Haskins
Oracle
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hmmm, mysql is free, best price of all.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 04:27PM
At 10:46 AM 4/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
Not true. You can use the Standard Edition for serving web pages. We're
doing it.
Yep. I've corrected myself on that in another email.
One thing I don't get: it's $6,000 Cdn for
trying again...
From: Eric D. Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:56:08 -0700
Subject: RE: Oracle vs DB2
Reportedly what IBM did here some years ago, was sell a
mainframe hardware package (for a COBOL/VSAM package) within
the University system's
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