Hi,

I'll second Chris' statement. I found PL/SQL Developer to be a great and
inexpensive PL/SQL development tool. Its debugger is especially good. In
fact from a development perspective I found it to be far superior to TOAD.
Have no idea about support and consideration of user suggestions as I had no
issues to report.
However as its name suggests it is purely a PL/SQL development tool and not
an administration tool, but then I don't think its trying to be the latter. 
Would recommend you stick with TOAD for administration, I don't know of
anything else significantly cheaper out there to replace TOAD and any small
licensing savings will be lost to lower productivity during the learning
curve anyway.

Regards,
Mark.




         From: "Dunscombe, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
         Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:50:30 +0100
         Subject: RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

        Paul,
         
        I've used PL/SQL Developer by Allround Automations to develop PL/SQL
procs,
        packages and it's fine including a well featured de-bugger. I
believe that a
        site licence costs $3,000. As to it being a DBA tool I'd have to say
it's
        not in the same league as TOAD Xpert with DBA module.
         
        Chris Dunscombe 

        Accenture Worthing Unit 

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        Management have been grumbling about the cost of TOAD Professional
licenses,
        and have been "recommended" a cheaper product called PL/SQL
Developer by
        Allround Automations (available from Inthink Corporation at $150 a
pop).
        Now, I've been to the product website, and read up on all its
features, and
        it basically looks like a nice enough product, but aimed squarely at
PL/SQL
        developers, rather than including all the DBA-oriented goodies we
find in
        TOAD. My first reaction is to respond by saying "fine, give it to
the
        developers to replace their copies of TOAD, if they find it adequate
for
        development, but it's not a DBA tool, so I'll keep my TOAD Xpert
with DBA
        module, thanks very much!".
         
        But if anyone on the list has tried both products, I'd be interested
to know
        what you think. Is it as usable as TOAD Professional for developers?
Does it
        have hidden charms which would make it a suitable replacement for
DBA use?
        How responsive are the product developers to requests for
enhancements? Any
        input is very welcome!
         
        Paul Vincent
        DBA
        University of Central England
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