Hemant
   Dick makes a good point about physical memory. The problem with a lot of
instances is that they all have fixed amounts of memory (except in 9i, up to
SGA_MAX_SIZE), and if one instance needs more memory you can't reallocate
unless you bounce it to add memory and maybe bounce several others to reduce
their memory. If you can consolidate instances, then they will be
dynamically sharing memory. Probably not the answer management wants to
hear, though.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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We also run several instances on just about every server we have.  Most, but
not
all share the same Oracle_home.  I only create new ones for newer versions
of
Oracle, but for each database I prefer to use seperate mount points such as:

/test/system
/test/rbs
/test/temp
/prod1/system
/prod1/rbs
/prod1/temp
/prod2/system
etc.......

Keeps one from stepping on one's own _________.  (You fill in the blanks.)

    The biggest problem I think you'll face is physical memory.  Have too
little
with too big an SGA & you start swapping.  Have smaller SGA's and wait IO
can
become a problem.  Simply put, you just can't have too much memory.

Typically we license a server for whatever it's being used for, so yes we do
have user and cpu licenses.  Kind of a pain keeping track.

Dick Goulet

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Date:       3/11/2003 6:19 AM

Hi,

On one of the 7 development box (aix 4.3.3) we have 27 instances Oracle
8172.
All using the same oracle_home.
I can't say it's the fastest response time ;-)

As for the licensing we have a mix of CPU and user licences.


Stephane Paquette
Administrateur de bases de donnees
Database Administrator
Standard Life
www.standardlife.ca
Tél. (514) 925-7187
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One of the teams here is planning to run anything
from 8 to 16 database instances [no indication on
sizing yet, but gut-feel SGAs are 200MB to 1GB
and DB sizes 500MB to 40GB] on a "large" server,
something like a Sun E6800 or an equivalent
HP or Fujitsu server.

1.  How many of you do run, and are comfortable running,
multiple databases on the same server, whether it is
"partitioned" or not ?
2.  Do you create a seperate ORACLE_HOME for

each instance ?
3.  Do you just buy the Oracle DB CPU license on the
total number of CPUs on the server ?

My positioning is
a.  We might not be able to create 8 partitions but
partition such that we have  a max of 2 or 3 instances
in one partition.  Hopefully, I can dynamically change
CPU partitioning to reallocate CPU to another group
of instances.

b.  Each instance should have it's own ORACLE_HOME.
[Disk space is not a constraint].

c.  Just add up the number of CPUs on the server,
across all partitions, and buy a CPU license.  Also,
a CPU license is much preferable to Named-User as some
of these databases would host Portals for 1,000+ end-users.


Hemant K Chitale
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