Thanks lisa
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His essays are still available here
http://www.geocities.com/lydian_third/
Lisa.
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I once worked for an excellent company, Southwest Research Institute, in the USA. As part of my employment agreement, I had to sign a paper saying ANY patent I was granted belonged to the company. It didn't matter if it was on my own time
Jerry - And they may or not be able to enforce that stipulation. A friend of
mine invented something in his spare time. When his patent was granted, the
company lawyers showed up to provide his requisite $1 and their gratitude,
per the agreement he has been forced to sign as a condition of his
Title: Re: What happened to Howard Rogers ?
That is quite standard. The meaning of full time employment does not admit the concept of working on my own time; mutually exclusive in many senses. In order to segregate your own time from that of a company, you have to be a temporary (i.e. contract
It's not unique to Australia and yes, they make
you sign a piece of paper to say anything you
do between 9am and 5pm belongs to the company...
Not just Oracle, BTW. Everyone does that. I wonder
what that would do to those who claim
one consulting gig = one book...
Oh, while I'm here: did
true in the US, which is after all the land
that can patent clicking :(.
Niall
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is after all the land
that can patent clicking :(.
Niall
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There are laws that are in effect without you having to sign papers.
I'm no lawyer and I do understand that just because it appears on some
website a statement isn't necessarily true ( we all should be very well
aware of that with all the advice about hit ratios and extent fragmentation
on
FOETBOL (Former Oracle Employees Threatened By Oracle Legal) appears to
be an organisation just waiting to be started up, and with some rather
well-known members from the outset...
Regarding Tom Kyte: AskTom :-))).
Mogens
sdf wrote:
So what about Tom Kyte? Does he represent Oracle or does he
Howard's response is below. Hopefully this makes things clearer for
those who are still interested.
I worked for Oracle for 4 years, producing my own stuff in my
own time, to elaborate on questions that perplexed me, and
about which I would often get asked by Oracle course students
-because
is that copyright thing something unique to Australia? I dont think they can
claim that in the US unless you sign some documents first.
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Howard's response is below.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. At least here in Canada everything job
related you produce while employed belongs to the employer. The in my own
time part opens a grey area, but if it is very job related and contains or
is related to information obtained on the job I don't think you've got a
So what about Tom Kyte? Does he represent Oracle or does he
represent himself?
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howard posted on dejanews that he is contracting to oracle. so i doubt he got fired.
he probably just quit. We all know alot of people who 'used to work for oracle'.
biggest downside is the lydian third site is gone. Had all the copies of his essays on
it. apparently oracle theratened to sue
I am one of those 'used to work for oracle'.
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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howard posted on dejanews that he is contracting to oracle. so i doubt he
got fired. he probably just
His essays are still available here
http://www.geocities.com/lydian_third/
Lisa.
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howard posted on dejanews that he is contracting to oracle. so i doubt he
got fired. he probably just quit. We
Not from here... temporarily unavailable.
: )
Pat.
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His essays are still available here
http://www.geocities.com/lydian_third/
Lisa.
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Thanks for this, Lisa. The 9i New Features book on his site seems to
be very good
On 10/23/2003 11:24:25 AM, Dobson, Lisa wrote:
His essays are still available here
http://www.geocities.com/lydian_third/
Lisa.
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Thanks for this, Lisa. The 9i New Features book on his site seems to
be very good
On 10/23/2003 11:24:25 AM, Dobson, Lisa wrote:
His essays are still available here
http
He had great stuff on his site. Why did Oracle make him take it down? His
stuff his very readable and informative IMHO.
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He had great stuff on his site. Why did Oracle make him
take it down? His stuff his very readable and informative
IMHO.
This e-mail, including attachments, may
stuff that Howard
writes, and you can hire his expert services as well.
Niall
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This still seems active
http://www.geocities.com/lydian_third/
Howard Rodgers writes extremely clearly.
bob
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howard posted on dejanews that he is contracting to oracle. so i doubt
he
Hi All
Its sad and really very very sad that if oracle sacked
howard..because many of us have learnt oracle only
because of howard.I have cleared my OCP just because
of OCP.I still clearly remmeber the times when there
was not a single book avaiable and jsut managed to get
hold of howard rogers
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