Re: What is truth?

2002-04-23 Thread Jared Still
On Monday 22 April 2002 22:43, Don Granaman wrote: PS: I just found my medication (Jack Daniels) and shouldn't have another relapse soon. My apologies... Sipping Yukon Jack at the moment. Some may find it difficult to reconcile my affinity for the sweet YJ after seeing my posts on

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: What is truth? I just took 5 months of classes (oracle dba). The entire focus of the classes was to get the students to pass the exams -- we were told that everyone forgets it all afterwards since anyway who can memorize it all? Use

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed
This is completely right! -Original Message- Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 5:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My boss (one of those scarey-smart people) was taking some certification test, when someone mused, I wonder how many questions he will answer 'incorrectly' in

Re: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Don Granaman
Do these qualify? * Far too much emphasis on Oracle's GUI tools (OEM, DBCA, etc.) * Too little emphasis on understanding too much on knowledge (i.e. rote memorization) * Treating ratios as the holy grail of tuning * etc... Don Granaman [certifiable OraSaurus] - Original Message - To:

Re: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Suzy Vordos
Yes, performance tuning using hit ratios. In preparation for that test I studied hard on learning wrong answers to questions like: Q) Hit-ratio is 45%, what to you do? Ray Stell wrote: My boss (one of those scarey-smart people) was taking some certification test, when someone mused, I

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Don, Ray - Think of the OCP as a subtle shift of power. Most of us talk among ourselves and assume that we are captains of our own destiny. Trying to make up for what Oracle has overlooked. Then the OCP comes along and we have no choice but to accept Oracle's viewpoint, at least long enough to

Re: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Fortunately, it's supported by the teaching materials from Oracle's tuning classes :-). The correct answer to the question is probably: Go to Connor's website and get his wonderful, little tool which can lift your BCHR to anything you want :). Mogens Suzy Vordos

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Larry Elkins
Can't speak about the OCP tests, but a few years back I was asked to take some Oracle tests as part of a screening interview with a head hunter. It was obvious the tests were developed in-house and the person who wrote the tests had been around Oracle just long enough to pick up on many myths,

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Brian Haas
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 15:53, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: I took an Oracle class recently and was shocked to find that generally the attitude was pointed toward passing the exam. If you asked a question that was not aimed at clarifying understanding for the class, the teacher wasn't very

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread JoJo Al-Zawawi
I just took 5 months of classes (oracle dba). The entire focus of the classes was to get the students to pass the exams -- we were told that everyone forgets it all afterwards since anyway who can memorize it all? Use the reference materials on the job like real people. (Hey, I've been

RE: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Jared . Still
by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/22/2002 05:08 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: What is truth? Can't speak about the OCP tests, but a few years back I was asked to take some Oracle tests

Re: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Don Granaman
I've sworn off the OCP rant as a lost cause, but I feel a temporary relapse coming on I don't think that (racheting up the difficulty of the OCP exams) would happen. Here is my (perhaps demented) reasoning. Presumptuous Assumptions: --- * The real goal of the entire

Re: What is truth?

2002-04-22 Thread Stephane Faroult
Don Granaman wrote: Do these qualify? * Far too much emphasis on Oracle's GUI tools (OEM, DBCA, etc.) * Too little emphasis on understanding too much on knowledge (i.e. rote memorization) * Treating ratios as the holy grail of tuning * etc... Don Granaman [certifiable OraSaurus]