Re: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-06-01 Thread Chip
if it is the same version of Oracle that is on A. Jared DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/2003 03:14 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-31 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Walter - This is a common question about RMAN. The Oracle response has been not a significant amount. I haven't noticed anything, but haven't specifically tried to measure it. As I mentioned, there are only a few commands going B - A and some status information going A - B. The actual backup

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-31 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
if it is the same version of Oracle that is on A. Jared DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/2003 03:14 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-31 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
You can initiate backups from any machine. Here is a cold backup script to illustrate backing up from a database server connecting to a rman catalog on another machine. #!/bin/sh ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/dbserver/9.0.1 export ORACLE_HOME ORACLE_SID=XXX export ORACLE_SID

Re: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-31 Thread Jared Still
True enough. I was making the assumption that RMAN would be run from the client or backup server. Of course that is not necessarily true. Some third party tools may require it. NetBackup for instance expects the RMAN script to run on the client, but I don't know if that is strictly

RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Walter K
Hi, Can anyone think of a reason(s) why oneWOULD want to backup a database from a box other than the database box itself? Are there any advantages to this kind of configuration? For example: Box-A (production db server) Box-B (rman db server) A cron job runs on Box-B which backups upthe

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Steve McClure
PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Walter KSent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups Hi, Can anyone think of a reason(s) why oneWOULD want to backup a database from a box other than the database box itself? Are there any

Re: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Tim Gorman
Well How about if you are performing BCV snapshots of the storage under Box-A (prod server) and then mounting those BCVs on Box-B, mounting (not opening!) the database on Box-B, and performing RMAN backups? That would remove any resource consumption from the all-important Box-A as far as

Re: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Ron Rogers
-w A simple disk crash containing the database and the RMAN data woulf wipe you out. If bax-a crashed you could use box-b to recover your data. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/03 12:54PM Hi, Can anyone think of a reason(s) why one WOULD want to backup a database from a box other than the database

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Walter - As RMAN was introduced in Oracle8i, that was the ideal. I think Oracle viewed RMAN as a high-level feature that would help you manage the backups for large server farms. They emphasized that the catalog was the way to go. With the catalog on another box, if the server was toasted, you

Re: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Darrell Landrum
Sure, several: 1) Centralized backup management, maybe there will eventually be a Box-C which can also be backed up by Box-B. 2) Maybe Box-B is a Veritas master media server or the equivilent with other backup software. 3) Most important: Box-A has a 'crash and burn', you don't lose your RMAN

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Walter K
Thanks Tim, Dennis and Ron for your feedback. I appreciate it. Let me clarify what I'm seeking. In my example, I am using a centralized catalog which is on its own dedicated database/server and backups are to tape. BCV's are not involved. Normally, in my experience, RMAN backups are initiated

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Walter - What you describe is the standard RMAN configuration. Box B contains the RMAN catalog, therefore it must command the backup. And so the cron job must run on Box B. But the actual backup occurs on the target machine (A in your example). If you back up to tape, you must have an MML (Media

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Walter K
In my scenario, target DB to be backed up on box A and rman database/catalog on Box B, I can "run" the backup from A or from B no problem. But, what I'm trying to get at is it better, worse or indifferent to "run" the backup from B or A. I would think there is extra network traffic to "run" the

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Jared . Still
] cc: Subject:RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups Walter - What you describe is the standard RMAN configuration. Box B contains the RMAN catalog, therefore it must command the backup. And so the cron job must run on Box B. But the actual backup occurs on the target machine

RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

2003-05-30 Thread Ron Rogers
-w. The method I use to perform the RMAN backup is different than the question you posed. Box-a is the database(target). OpenVMS - Production server Box-b is the repository(catalog) database. OpenVMS - Development server Box-c is the controling(cron source). Linux - play and learn server. I