RE: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: About parallel server Several things: You will have to re-license (your honest aren't you) for the faster machines and OPS; Build the new database on raw and export/import.  Maybe "dd" would get your datafiles from cooked ufs to raw but it's to much FUD for

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: About parallel server Your point 1:  Unless things have changed redo and controlfiles must be raw.  When I took the OPS course several years ago and worked with OPS we needed the redo/controlfiles to be on raw so that one instance could recover when another instance failed

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread sheisey
Fernando, You will need cluster manager and shared disk drives to build this cluster. You need at least Oracle 8.1.6 or 8.1.7 Solaris 2.6 Sun Cluster Manager 2.2 Some volume manager preferably Veritas 2.2.1+ or 3.0.4+ Solaris 8 (2.8) Sun Cluster Manager 2.2 or 3.0 ( If you use SC 3.0 then

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: About parallel server Dick,    What are you using for your source for this information? This does not jibe with other things I have read. If your not going to use a shared raw device for the online redo logs, how can one instance to instance recovery for another instance that

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Fernando Papa
We have a couple of independent applications running over the same instance now (it's better to do it because our resources cant' support two instances over the same machine), we think if we use parallel server, we can make "partition" of this applications, one for each node or someting like that

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Ray Stell
I have heard from iouga attendees that there was is something called "Rack" from oracle/compaq on the horizon with 9i which is the next replication solution. Can folks comment on this? What is the architecture and how does this play with oracle? Is this just an OPS on some alphastation? Our co

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Rachel Carmichael
le recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: About parallel server >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:06:38 -0800 > >Dick, > > What are you using for your source for this information? >This does not jibe with other things I have read. >If your not going to us

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
CTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: About parallel server > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:06:38 -0800 > > > >Dick, > > > > What are you using for your source for t

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen
ll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/31/01 11:36 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: About parallel server I have heard from iouga atten

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
Ray, Oracle9i RAC (Real Application Clusters) is or was (depending on your perspective) Oracle Parallel Server. Compaq is working with Oracle to pre-install and ship Oracle9i on there NT boxes (not sure about TRU64 or OpenVMS platforms), so you just turn it on and it works. Oracle9i replicati

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
Fernando, If your current resources are limited and the app is partitioned, you should have very few problems implementing the App in OPS (famous last words). If HA is a requirement and fast failover times OPS is a good pick. Just make sure the ends justify the means. Some people have good e

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Ray Stell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:17:30AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ray > I think, you are referring to RAC, Real Application Cluster. Which > is same as OPS with cache fusion for all scenarios. Please see my previous > mail thread with the same subject.. -- index oracle-l The ar

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Don Granaman
hat OPS on 9i will allow you to use cooked files. > > User group meeting next week, with a presentation on 9i new features. > I'll ask > > Rachel > > > >From: "Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Jared Still
On Thursday 31 May 2001 13:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So whether you are using 7, 8, 8i, 9i you can use > filesystems for OPS (RAC) if the OS supports multiple > concurrent mounts on the same filesystem from multiple > nodes. Scott, Thanks for answering a question I asked Oracle several year

RE: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Jared, We had tried OPS in a test environment on DG Aviion, we were told to go for RAW file system by Oracle and DG (I believe). HTH Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expres

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Richard Ji
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/01/01 12:44PM >>> On Thursday 31 May 2001 13:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So whether you are using 7, 8, 8i, 9i you can use > filesystems for OPS (RAC) if the OS supports multiple > concurrent mounts on the same filesystem from multiple > nodes. Scott, Thanks for ans

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Richard Ji
A couple of years ago, no vendor has a distributed file system (one that will let all nodes in a cluster to mount and access the same file system simultaneously). And that's why we had to use raw device. Maybe DG had it? So which vendor has it then and who has it now? Richard Ji >>> [EMAIL PR

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Charlie Mengler
Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) had functional VAX-Clusters in the early 1980's and did NOT use raw devices. The VAX-Clusters used the same filesystem as stand-alone VAX systems used! So Compaq has it today on their "legacy" VMS systems. Richard Ji wrote: > > A couple of years ago, no vendor has

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still
It was DG/UX on DG Aviion Systems, with Clariion storage system. We were sharing filesystems between 2 nodes. Don't know about the rest of DG, but EMC purchased their Clariion storage system unit. Jared On Friday 01 June 2001 14:25, Richard Ji wrote: > A couple of years ago, no vendor has