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i took a discrete math class last summer at a st
I think Cary has put performance tuning on a solid math foundation, not
just the Oracle one. I'm writing a little paper (not much yet) on why
you can not optimise any other system right than the MVS environment and
the Oracle database. The MySQL people are currently reading Cary's book
and lear
That's one book that I don't have. A good friend of mine says it's very
good, especially as an introduction.
I browsed it in a bookstore once, and if my memory serves me correctly,
the only reason I didn't buy it is that I felt like Gross & Harris
(which I already owned) covered everything I would
Cary,
Is Mike Tanner's book "Practical Queuing Analysis" good in your opinion?
Michael Milligan
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> Ryan,
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> I do not recall seeing a single dy/dx or integrand in the text.
> The type of math that he used, I saw in high school, and that was in
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I took a discrete structures for computer science math class as an undergrad. It was great, once I got past the Swedish accent of the instructor and figured out that "contraposite" was the contra opposite.
Yes, a highly recommended class, even if yo
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Niall,
This is a very kind,
and I believe (maybe it's only hopeful belief)
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> Ryan,
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> I do not recall seeing a single dy/dx or integrand in the text.
> The type of math that he used, I saw in high
if i want to improve my math skills how much undergraduate math would you recommend?
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Ryan
Actually the math that queueing theory is based on is not calculus. It
may also help if you understand that a queue is a fancy French word for
"waiting line". See, doesn't it sound much more important academically if
you say you study queueing theory than if you say you study waiting lines?
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> I guess that your review is fair (and balanced, of course). In my
> review, I conf
Ryan,
I do not recall seeing a single dy/dx or integrand in the text.
The type of math that he used, I saw in high school, and that was in the US, at a public school. Cary easily could have used "real" math to prove his points. He didn't. He used graphical methods, visual basic and intuition. Bu
I don't know exactly how to scope your question, so I'll answer the two
things I think it might mean.
For every chapter except for Chapter 9 (Queueing Theory), even college
calculus would be extreme overkill, even if you're looking to *derive*
all the formulas in those chapters. Understanding the
No, you don't. I made mistake and tried to learn queuing theory from it. This
book is not a course in queuing theory, it's a book about the optimization
techniques and how to use queuing theory to actually predict the response time
and write SLA's. It's not written in the usual form for mathe
if someone wants to dig into the type of math you are using in your book in
more depth, what level of math expertise would you recommend? Do you have to
go beyond college level calculus ?
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Dennis,
Thanks. In fact, I feel the same way about this as many of you who have
written about the book in the prior two days. I think the material that
ended up being Part II needed to be studied, refined, and documented.
And I believe it is important that this material be written in a BOOK
instea
Maybe your memory is suffering. Wasn't it a 42? :)
Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
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Steve McClure
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 20
On 2003.10.22 20:19, Michael Milligan wrote:
database "experts" who purport that the "relational" in RDBMS represents
relating tables.
Just for completeness, the definition of a relation is, quite literally, "a
subset of cartesian product". Set theory studies mostly relations of ordering
and equ
>If you gave me a quiz on relational algebra today, I'd probably flunk
>it, like many people that daily work with relational databases. But that
>doesn't stop us from making use of the fruits of the theory. Similarly, I
>don't think we need to understand Part II in detail to successfully use
>Cary'
Great comment. I believe your analogy to relational theory to be very apt.
Back when we were all in junior high and our teachers were drawing those
Venn diagrams on the board, we were probably thinking "When will I ever use
this stuff?". Personally, I use it every day. What you said about relationa
I guess that your review is fair (and balanced, of course). In my
review, I confessed the sin of having a math degree, so the perspective
is necessarily, different. I believe that it probably is hard for a
person equipped only with the high school math apparatus. To give
credit where it's due, I
I think Cary deserves a vote of appreciation for Part II of his book. I feel
(based on the comments of others, haven't waded through it myself yet) that
he has put Oracle performance tuning on a solid mathematical foundation.
My first education was engineering and I learned was that a practice
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I also am not Cary .I have however read Cary's book
from cover to cover (including spending rather too long on a romantic weekend in
paris with my wife contemplating a 10046 trace parsing project :(). I Am
rereading and intend to require my fellow DBAs and sysadmins to read
MLaden,
Thank you very, very much for a great review. I hope you'll post that to
Amazon. As a matter of fact, I enjoy queuing theory. I remember almost
buying a book called "Practical Queuing Analysis" by Mike Tanner.
I was a biology major in college, so I may muddle through the math, but
it'll b
I think so! :-)
RF
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Is it (review) as good as Mladen's? -:)
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Is it (review) as good as Mladen's? -:)
Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Freeman Robert - IL
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Well I got the honor of being the first to publish a review on Amazon
for
Cary's book..
Well I got the honor of being the first to publish a review on Amazon for
Cary's book it is a good read!
Robert
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I'll try to correct spelling errors before I post it to the Amazon,
but I will do it, d
I'll try to correct spelling errors before I post it to the Amazon,
but I will do it, despite the fact that I'm not very fond of Amazon.
On 10/21/2003 03:09:32 PM, Michael Milligan wrote:
MLaden,
Thank you very, very much for a great review. I hope you'll post that
to
Amazon. As a matter of fact,
MLaden,
Thank you very, very much for a great review. I hope you'll post that to
Amazon. As a matter of fact, I enjoy queuing theory. I remember almost
buying a book called "Practical Queuing Analysis" by Mike Tanner.
I was a biology major in college, so I may muddle through the math, but
it'll b
I'm not Cary but a satisfied reader who read the book in a
very detailed way and probably caused some headache to Cary.
Allow me, nevertheless, to respond to your question.
Cary's book IS different because it does not cover the classical
approach to tuning and explaining in detail all well known an
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