One finger per big mistake is a pretty good policy.  Not only does it
slow down their rate but it pretty well limits them to ten.



RC> and did you explain to this junior that if he ever does it again, he
RC> will  be minus a few fingers?

RC> Even if "things are okay now" and you could do a shutdown/startup and
RC> took a backup, I'd export the database and recreate it. The backup you
RC> took is of the system AFTER the deletion from trigger$.  He's
RC> invalidated your support contract by doing that.


RC> --- rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ok... now i'm praying... cos after i had sent this mail to the list
>> askling 
>> for suggestions.. my junior DBA deleted the trigger from trigger$
>> !!!!! 
>> things are "ok now" he says... and this _is_ a production schema.. ! 
>> 
>> we are _not_ encountring any errors now, but i did shutdown/startup
>> and 
>> took a new base backup.... and i will   continue to pray for some
>> time to 
>> come...  ;-(( 
>> 
>> -rahul
>> 
>> PS: this startup migrate is news to me.. i should have looked some
>> more in 
>> the manuals... big thanks.. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 10:24:24 -0800, Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote :
>> 
>> > 
>> > D'oh!
>> > 
>> > Shoulda thought of that.  It's standard
>> > procedures on upgrades.
>> > 
>> > Thanks Mladen.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Friday 04 July 2003 11:29, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>> > > Parameter to disable database triggers is:
>> > >
>> > > _system_trig_enabled = FALSE
>> > >
>> > > This is 9i parameter. Alternatively, if you start the database up
>> in the
>> > > "migrate" mode, system triggers will be disable ("startup
>> migrate" is 
>> what
>> > > you need)
>> > >
>> > > On 2003.07.04 10:54, "Jamadagni, Rajendra" wrote:
>> > > > This will teach you that you should be _very_ careful when
>> dealing 
>> with
>> > > > sys schema.
>> > > >
>> > > > what's that parameter to disable sys triggers ??
>> > > >
>> > > > 1. Call OWS
>> > > > 2. If this is production DB, keep your resume ready.
>> > > >
>> > > > Raj
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:39 PM
>> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> > > > !!!!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > At first glance it appears that you have created a self
>> referencing
>> > > > trigger.
>> > > >
>> > > > You can't drop it, because dropping it fires the trigger.
>> > > >
>> > > > Check metalink, open a TAR, etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jared
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "rahul sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > >  07/03/2003 03:40 AM
>> > > >  Please respond to ORACLE-L
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >         To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:
>> > > >         Subject:        cannot disable or drop the ON DATABASE
>> trigger
>> > > > !!!!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Help list... i have created the following in 8.1.5 instance
>> > > >
>> > > > CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DDL_TRIGGER BEFORE
>> > > > CREATE OR ALTER OR DROP ON DATABASE
>> > > >
>> > > > BEGIN
>> > > >         null;
>> > > > END;
>> > > > /
>> > > >
>> > > > and now i cannot drop or disable this trigger !!!!
>> > > >
>> > > > ERROR at line 1:
>> > > > ORA-04045: errors during recompilation/revalidation of
>> SYS.DDL_TRIGGER
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > i'm loggin into svrmgrl and connecting as internal to try drop
>> or
>> > > > disable..
>> > > > is this a bug ??
>> > > >
>> > > > TIA
>> > > >
>> > > > Rahul..
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
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>> > > > Author: rahul sharma
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