Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-09-03 Thread Dwayne Cox
respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:RE: SQL*Plus in 10i > > > > BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus? > Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it an

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-09-02 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
PROTECTED] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: SQL*Plus in 10i They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use that (and OEM) for startup and shutdown

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jonathan Gennick
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:23:27 -0800, you wrote: >Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i?? The story I heard is that only the Windows version, the one that wraps a GUI around the command-line, goes away. The DOS version stays (or so I've been told, but I forget by who). Jonathan Gen

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu
I wonder why there is no Oradim under Unix/Linux? ltiu On Friday 30 August 2002 19:23, Rachel Carmichael wrote: > does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it > > And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of > svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Ji, Richard
No it doesn't. oradim is used to create/start/stop oracle services. There is no such thing as NT services on Unix. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it And it took a LOT of

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
-Original Message- > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:09 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re: SQL*Plus in 10i > > > > > > How do they expect you to start and stop th

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I can't code scripts to be run by the operations staff via OEM. I don't want to give that much access to non-DBA staff. I told Ken Jacobs this years ago when he said at an NYOUG meeting that "soon your database will be controlled from the web" --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7 I believe. --- ltiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oradim -startup -sid -pfile ??? > > They got rid of SVRMGR. > > l

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Orr, Steve
p;who_var@&instance_var SQL> ' Jared "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/30/2002 01:28 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Brian McGraw
And how will they support automated jobs (i.e., cron) that use sqlplus?? I've already had to rewrite scripts from svrmgrl to sqlplus. I don't want to go through that again. I'm hoping, Robert, that you're just pulling everyone's leg :) -- | Bri

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert
>> McNealy, Ellison and Gates Sounds like one of those injury law firms that advertises on late night TV... Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database Architect CSX Midtier Database Administration Author Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002) Oracle9i New Features (Oracl

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jared . Still
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: SQL*Plus in 10i > BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus? Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jared . Still
e up this issue. Jared "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/30/2002 01:43 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Philip Douglass
I've been looking for something like this too -- unfortunately it doesn't work on my platform (UnixWare 7) out of the box, and I haven't had time to figure out why not. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:28 P

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert
They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use that (and OEM) for startup and shutdown. The SQL*Plus text and windows clinet I hear will be gone. RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database Architect CSX Midtier Database Administration Author Oracle9i RMAN Backu

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert
And as for OEM, I've heard from several sources that Oracle is going to position that product more and more to be "THE" database management interface. It's going to start feeling like we are working on a SQL Server database before you know it. RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database A

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Having McNealy, Ellison and Gates working for the same company? It would be somewhat like Heller's "Milo Enterprises" > -Original Message- > From: ltiu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:59 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Orr, Steve
> BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus? Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and most used c

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu
Rumor ... They might as well buy SUN along the way (and get rid of Java for good). SUN's market cap is only $13B. MS got $300B. On Friday 30 August 2002 12:44, Gogala, Mladen wrote: > Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy Oracle Corp., with > Larry Ellison taking the place of Stev

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu
Why not? It's easy to use. It will increase Oracle's market share to the dumb and dumber. ltiu On Friday 30 August 2002 12:24, you wrote: > oradim is only a windows thingy. Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl > or sqlplus depending on version. Are you saying that they are going to > port ora

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Joe Testa
thats the Stupid WINDOZE way. joe ltiu wrote: >oradim -startup -sid -pfile ??? > >They got rid of SVRMGR. > >ltiu > >On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote: > >>How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away? >>and please don't say OEM... >> >>--- "Freeman, Robert"

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy Oracle Corp., with Larry Ellison taking the place of Steve Ballmer. -Original Message-From: Rodd Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:24 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: S

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rodd Holman
oradim is only a windows thingy.  Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or sqlplus depending on version.  Are you saying that they are going to port oradim to *NIX?? Rodd On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote: oradim -startup -sid -pfile ??? They got rid of SVRMGR. ltiu On Fri

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
What would be the replacement?? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i?? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database Architect CSX Midtier Database Administration Aut

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen
rollback segment monitor would also be an outrageous improvement, don't you think so? > -Original Message- > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: SQL*Plus

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu
oradim -startup -sid -pfile ??? They got rid of SVRMGR. ltiu On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote: > How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away? > and please don't say OEM... > > --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone else hear that SQL*Pl

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jan Pruner
Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'. :-))) BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus? http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/ JP On Friday 30 August 2002 18:23, you wrote: > Anyone else hear that SQL*Pl

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu
Nooo!!! On Friday 30 August 2002 09:23, Freeman, Robert wrote: > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i?? > > > RF > > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP > Oracle Database Architect > CSX Midtier Database Administration > Author > Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Pre

Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away? and please don't say OEM... --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i?? > > > RF > > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP > Oracle Database Architect > CSX Midtier Dat

RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Ji, Richard
Are you kidding? So what do we use to startup and shutdown db? OEM? I don't think there is any truth to this one. Richard -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i?? RF Rob

SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i?? RF Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database Architect CSX Midtier Database Administration Author Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002) Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press) Mastering Oracle8i  (Sybex) The avalanch