RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-09 Thread Rachel Carmichael
pients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs >Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 06:47:29 -0800 > >Hi All, > >Rachel wrote > > want to tell me how you hold off the CEO who is breathing down your neck >on > > the 24x7 data

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-09 Thread dvmrgn
Hi All, Rachel wrote > want to tell me how you hold off the CEO who is breathing down your neck on > the 24x7 database that's down? Answers are snipped, but no wonder DBA's have a bad reputation. In this case, the proper thing to do is give the best client service possible. Forget your databas

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-08 Thread Eric D. Pierce
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RE: OT RE: OT RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-08 Thread Hillman, Alex
people: "Sorry!, that wasn't my intent." || -Original Message- || From: Mohan, Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 12:23 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: OT RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs || || || Barbie doesn

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2001-05-08 Thread Mohan, Ross
That's the word on the street, yea. || -Original Message- || From: Hillman, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:42 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: RE: OT RE: OT RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs || || || Now I think

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2001-05-08 Thread Mohan, Ross
iple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: OT RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs || || || Barbie doesn't talk when he takes her || clothes off. || || || -Original Message- || || From: David A. Barbour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || || Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:35 P

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2001-05-08 Thread Mohan, Ross
Barbie doesn't talk when he takes her clothes off. || -Original Message- || From: David A. Barbour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] || Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:35 PM || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L || Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs || || ||

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread David A. Barbour
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RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

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RE: Taking your time when a "crisis" occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs The best one happened over the weekend.  On Friday night I'm heading downtown for a night of carting around my coworkers while they get hammered.  The phone goes off at 9:45pm and it's the boss saying to my coworker (sa) that

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ah but my boss was breathing down my neck as well.. >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs >Date: M

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Marianne Brooks
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs No can do. Already have one on the ring finger of the left hand that is the virtual nose ring.  (tee hee!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:50 AM To: Multiple

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs "Work smarter not harder"is that anything like, "Know the difference between doing things right and doing the right thing"? >>&g

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Tim Sawmiller
ances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Meddle not in the affairs of troff, > for it is subtle and quick to anger. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Thater, William [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:16 AM > >

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Marianne Brooks
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs My personal fave is 'Do more with less.'  So I went to Les and said, Hey, I'm supposed to do more with you.He was not amused... -Original Message- From: Tim Sawmiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 07

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Scott . Shafer
2001 1:21 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > > Hmm, shaved head, why didn't I think of that? I would imagine a woman > with a shaved head might be as effective...add a tatoo, some leather pants > a

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Tim Sawmiller
in a clueless state of perceived self-importance offering wonderful platitudes like "Work smarter not harder" and such. Generally they wind up being the chickens discussed in a related response. Rodd Original Message dated 5/7/01, 11:50:27 AM Author: "Koivu," Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Eric D. Pierce
---excerpt--- ? definition #1) Dilbert's boss, a clueless manager who likes to have pointless meetings, harass workers. He really doesn't have a clue. definition #2) A specific form of a very common creature, he is one of those peop

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Marianne Brooks
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs Hmm, shaved head, why didn't I think of that?  I would imagine a woman with a shaved head might be as effective...add a tatoo, some leather pants and a scowl and I've got a new me! :-) Marianne -Original Message- Fr

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Scott . Shafer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:52 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > > I usually hire a large, mean and extremely > rude person to stand at the entrance to my > cube and say "

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Rodd Holman
d Original Message dated 5/7/01, 11:50:27 AM Author: "Koivu," Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs: Yes, Rodd, you are right. There are times when being blunt is warranted. I do it now - I couldn't a few months ago. At my last employer I was very

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Alex Apostolopoulos
EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > > > Lisa, > This is where I use my firm understanding of what I can do and all the > other employers in the world that woul

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Ron Rogers
At my previous employer (AT&T) I was in charge if a large electronic switching system. When there were problems the manager would be breathing down my neck to make the diagnosis and repairs as quickly as possible. I made a sign and pointed to it when he would bother me during the crisis. It wor

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs Yes, Rodd, you are right.  There are times when being blunt is warranted.  I do it now - I couldn't a few months ago.  At my last employer I was very very good at it and my boss let us do our jobs without interference. However, the

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Kimberly Smith
reathing down your neck on the 24x7 database that's down? >From: "William Beilstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs >Date:

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs I usually hire a large, mean and extremely rude person to stand at the entrance to my cube and say "Mr. Adams is busy right now.  Come back later." R. Matt Adams  - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Meddle not in the affair

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Thater, William
On Mon, 7 May 2001,Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) scribbled on the wall in...: ->I usually hire a large, mean and extremely ->rude person to stand at the entrance to my ->cube and say "Mr. Adams is busy right ->now. Come back later." I didn't think I was rude.;-) -- Bill Thater Certif

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread paquette stephane
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:30:57 -0800 > > > >I agree, many serious problems have been created by > DBA's that act before > >they thin

Re:RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread dgoulet
- > From: Thater, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:16 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > > > Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > > want to tell me how you hold off th

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread paquette stephane
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:30:57 -0800 > > > >I agree, many serious problems have been created by > DBA's that act before > >they thin

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Rodd Holman
ies, or procedures of LodgeNet Entertainment Corporation Original Message dated 5/7/01, 9:45:47 AM Author: "Koivu," Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs: These are good points, but beware of the boss that thinks looking over your shoulder and asking questions

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Thater, William
Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > want to tell me how you hold off the CEO who is breathing down your neck on > the 24x7 database that's down? establish a perimeter and use automatic weapons?;-) -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread paquette stephane
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs > >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:30:57 -0800 > > > >I agree, many serious problems have been created by > DBA's that act before > >they thin

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ph: (902) 426-4774 -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:36 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Re: Taking your time

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread William Beilstein
at's down? >From: "William Beilstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs >Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:30:57 -0800 > >I agree

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
want to tell me how you hold off the CEO who is breathing down your neck on the 24x7 database that's down? >From: "William Beilstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subj

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Tim Sawmiller
Ah, yes...reminds me of the time I attended a meeting with our new COO. She had a zillion ideas and a bunch of requests for information. When the meeting ended, she asked me what I was going to do first. I startled her with, "I'm going to lunch, wanna join me?". She did and we mapped out ou

RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Taking your time when a crisis occurs These are good points, but beware of the boss that thinks looking over your shoulder and asking questions helps.  Either your supervisor trusts you or he/she doesn't.  For me, having someone right behind me breaks my concentration and can

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread William Beilstein
I agree, many serious problems have been created by DBA's that act before they think things through. When I have a problem with the database, I get a cup of coffee, put my feet up, and think about what happened and what to do to solve the problem. Between corrupted data files, hardware crashed,

Re: Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-07 Thread paquette stephane
The golden rule when there is a big crash is : 1. Panic 2. Stop panic 3. Fix the problem --- "Hallas, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > FOR YOUR INFORMATION > > ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet > email addresses of the staff has changed to the > following - [EMAIL PROTECT

Taking your time when a crisis occurs

2001-05-04 Thread Hallas, John
FOR YOUR INFORMATION ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet email addresses of the staff has changed to the following - [EMAIL PROTECTED] eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emails using the old format will continue to be delivered until 30th June 2001. David, I support what you say about takin