RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Hillman, Alex
ssage- > From: Hallas, John [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:21 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design > > FOR YOUR INFORMATION > > ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
- Kirti Deshpande Verizon Information Services http://www.superpages.com > -Original Message- > From: Hillman, Alex [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:37 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Hallas, John
2001 17:26 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design Well, not quite. SORT_AREA_SIZE specifies the maximum amount, in bytes, of memory to use for a sort. After the sort is complete and all that re

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Original Message- > From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Temporary Tablespace Design > > On Wednesday 18 April 2001 07:40, you wrote: > > Hi John, > > Aft

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Tim Sawmiller
ssage- > From: Hallas, John [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:21 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design > > FOR YOUR INFORMATION > > ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet

Re: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Jared Still
On Wednesday 18 April 2001 07:40, you wrote: > Hi John, > After the sort phase is complete, Oracle will trigger memory > de-allocation and the OS will go at work again. Kirti, I seem to recall a post from Steve Adams not too long ago about this. As I recall, free() is not called immediately, b

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Hillman, Alex
nts of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design > > FOR YOUR INFORMATION > > ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet email addresses of the > staff has changed to the following - [EMAIL PROTECTED] eg > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emails using the old for

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
ent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:21 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design > > FOR YOUR INFORMATION > > ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet email addresses of the > staff has changed to the following - [E

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-18 Thread Hallas, John
FOR YOUR INFORMATION ESIS and EPFAL are now part of Logica. The Internet email addresses of the staff has changed to the following - [EMAIL PROTECTED] eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emails using the old format will continue to be delivered until 30th June 2001. Kirti Deshpande writes "Also, keep SOR

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-13 Thread paquette stephane
Do not increase the sort_area_size at the database level but at the session level. When I have big batch jobs running alone at night I increased the hash_area_size and the sort_area_size of the session running the job. --- CC Harvest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Kirti: >The server is solely

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread Hillman, Alex
I think you missed analyze operation. It is for this command is 4x may be required. Also space for temporary tablespaces can be on very cheap disks. Alex Hillman -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Chris, First let me

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
; Subject: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design > > Kirti: >The server is solely used for the Oracle Database > and it has 2GB Ram. I didn't increase sort_area_size > too much because I thought the table is so big, and > probablay I could not run them in the memory. Th

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread CC Harvest
Kirti: The server is solely used for the Oracle Database and it has 2GB Ram. I didn't increase sort_area_size too much because I thought the table is so big, and probablay I could not run them in the memory. That's why I just try the temp tablespace. Thanks, Chris --- "Deshpande, Kirti" <[E

Re[2]:Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread dgoulet
Chris, Some of what your saying would lead me to look at the wait_io in a the sar output. You may want to talk with your SA as it sounds like you maybe IO bound. That being the case it does not matter how much temp space you have, your just sitting around waiting on the drive(s). Kirti

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
I would suggest that you increase (as much as possible) sort_area_size and sort_area_retained_size for your session when building indexes to minimize temporary tablespace use. Making temporary tablepspace of type temporary and adjusting default initial & next extent size can also help. HTH.. - K

Re:RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread dgoulet
Steve, Thanks for reminding me of that one other operation that does also take up temp. Again, I think that depends on how often you calculate statistics & if your using partitioning. We do statistics once a week, and do it partition by partition so it does not take up that much. Dick Goul

Re: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread Tim Sawmiller
I'd be tempted to make it 4 times your largest expected working set, but how you arrive at that figure is beyond me... >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/01 04:05AM >>> What's your experience about the temporary table design? I read Michael Ault's Orcale8 Administartion and Management , it says "For Co

RE: Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Temporary Tablespace Design Hi Chris, Yes there may be 'rules' like this, but realistically who has 64GB to spend on disk space?  I have one huge table similar to what you describe.  My temp tablespace is 20GB only because I have the disk.  Maybe you can take th

Temporary Tablespace Design

2001-04-12 Thread CC Harvest
What's your experience about the temporary table design? I read Michael Ault's Orcale8 Administartion and Management , it says "For Cost-based optimization, it should be 4 times of the largest table". I have a table of 60 Million records, and it costs 16GB, should I have a 64GB temp tablespace(I d