Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-10 Thread Chip
Idea for testing: looking for redo associated with select statement(s) that are cleaning out row level locks in block(s) from previously committed DML transaction(s). Have Fun :) Tanel Poder wrote: Hi! Maybe they were thinking that if you audit select statements, you can analyze inserts on AUD$

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Maybe they were thinking that if you audit select statements, you can analyze inserts on AUD$ using logminer later on Anyway, if there's any future release where selects can be in redo, I hope they aren't there by default.. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-10 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Arup and Joe When I wrote the SANS Oracle security step-by-step book I wrote in there the list of restrictions for log miner including that is didn't support selects and during the review process of my book someone in Oracle who was reviewing it informed me that selects would be in the redo in

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-09 Thread Joe Testa
Arup, I kinda shook my head on that one also. So Pete, you got some inside-scoop that i've missed, i admit i've not much touched logminer in 9ir2(did alot of it and presentations back in 8i days), but have been spending my days now doing DR/RMAN implementations. joe Arup Nanda wrote: Hi Pet

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-09 Thread Arup Nanda
Hi Pete, I am a little prerplexed by "selects are not recorded in redo prior to 9i ". AFAIK selects are nevere recorded in the redo, and therefore archived logs - so they are never unearthed by LogMiner, even in 9i Release2. Isn't that true? Thanks. Arup - Original Message - To: "Multip

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-09 Thread Robin Li
Joe and Pete, Thanks for the response, that confirms my thoughts. Robin Pete Finnigan wrote: > > Hi Robin, > > LogMiner is a good tool for forensics, after the fact type work i.e to > find out when your junior dba dropped that table. It shouldn't be used > to do run of the mill daily work. It

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-09 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Robin, LogMiner is a good tool for forensics, after the fact type work i.e to find out when your junior dba dropped that table. It shouldn't be used to do run of the mill daily work. It has a few deficiencies that are hard to work around: o - log miner user PGA memory so cannot be used in MTS

Re: trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-08 Thread Joe Testa
Robin, only in a recovery situation, but not to track changes consistently, what version of oracle, since in 8i days, logminer didn't support certain datatypes, etc and forget about chained, migrated rows. :) joe Robin Li wrote: Hi all, The users want to keep the old information on certain f

trigger and LogMiner

2003-07-08 Thread Robin Li
Hi all, The users want to keep the old information on certain fields once an update occurs for one (maybe two) table. I recommend to create a history table and use trigger. And the developer says LogMiner is the idea. I played with LogMiner once a year ago. I remember I had to specified a start/