I'd like to clarify my question. I got the News appliacation working by following the instructions and Neville's tips on HypersonicSQL. However, it was all bundled neatly in an .ear file. I'm not sure how to get my own app into that kind of format, or something the EJB server recognizes. Actually, I just want to get my own version of the cart app working and its pure EJB, no web pages at all (baby steps). The line in my old ejb.xml file was something like: <ejb-jar>../demo/ejb/mikecart-app/</ejb-jar> This caused the server to auto load these beans. If I just want to get a plain old EJB application/beans loaded into the server (no web stuff at all)this kind of thing working again do you have any pointers? Thanks, Mike >> original question I just installed the orion 8.5 b and have trying to get the EJB server up and running. I've got the rmi/jms/datasources going but I can't find a way to enable the EJB server. The docs do not even mention a relationship from the server.xml file to the ejb.xml file anymore (based on my 8.2 experience). I've tried putting the following in the server.xml <ejb path="./ejb.xml" /> <ejb-config path="./ejb.xml" /> <ejb-server path="./ejb.xml" /> All of these give me a message: Unknown tag in xx/xxx/server.xml Can someone get me back on track using this thing for EJBs. Thanks in advance, Mike