It didn't dawn on me, that as I sit here being a part time Oracle DBA, and playing with J2EE on Resin, Orion, and Jboss in development, I now know the complete Oracle picture, and since we have an Oracle site license, I can run the new Orion software for nothing through Oracle. Of course, I'm the same person who inserted a CD into a Sun server, and couldn't get it to eject. How was I to know you need to type EJECT? Luckily, I didn't have to open a support ticket for this issue. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/