I apologize that this is off topic, but its probably of interest to everyone here. For anyone interestred in EJB 2.0, there is a great book available at: http://www.mvcsoft.com Its included in their persistence manager product. BTW, that persistence manager is a complete implementation of EJB 2.0 PFD, so if you want to get a head start you can. Even if you don't need their code, the included PDF book is worth more than the $28 they ask for it. (No, I don't have anything to do with them... I just think its a great product that everyone can benefit from). Cheers! Jim