Very true. PHP is a strange mix between java, perl and c++, but it has some
very interesting plugins that can speed development. PHP can allso use
javaobjects :) that is a nice feature.....Even EJB.....
Still when youve done a couple of JSP projects you are likely to have built
yourself a set of good modules of some sort to use in JSP so i dont think
this is something to think about. If you know Java and not PHP, it is
extremely easy to learn yourself JSP.
The speed of PHP comes only in 1 (maby two) configurations, one is if you
integrate it into apache so it dont run it as cgi, or maby (havent tested)
when you compile pure java integration (not cgi)... Somehow i have met some
distros that will only run this thing as cgi :P
Still on a server with lots of memory and a good JSP engine i dont think you
will see any speed differences on solaris or windows....Linux still have a
small issue with speed and memory usage in the vm, this will prolly get
better pretty soon :)....
JSP engines exists for virtually any webserver out there on any platform
(allmost) so its a very good choice to know this technology, and i see my
own customers throwing away those old ASP engines and porting applications
over to JSP all the time...
And for those who want to flame me for not liking PHP i can only comment: I
like PHP but i like JSP and its taglibs a bit better, especialy because
there are loads of documentation and a very easy learning how to use if you
are proficient in Java .... + you have an excelent server development
spesification called J2EE that is starting to get widely used now.
Have fun!
Klaus
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Fra: J.T. Wenting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 10. januar 2001 15:32
Til: Orion-Interest
Emne: RE: JSP vs PHP
I guess the discussion was in a Linux environment. The speed issue
(especially development speed) is voiced a lot in Linux circles by PHP
advocates as the number of people in the Linux scene who know PHP far
outnumbers the number of JSP people in there.
Performance of PHP on Linux is likely also a bit better as the Linux JVMs do
not excell where it comes to performance (if only because Linux servers are
generally older, lower spec, machines and we all know Java does only come
into its own if it has loads of memory).
Jeroen T. Wenting
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Murphy was wrong, things that can't go wrong will anyway
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Arved
> Sandstrom
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 14:02
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: JSP vs PHP
>
>
> Can't speak for the runtime performance - PHP, JSP, and ColdFusion are all
> pretty fast - but I can't see how one can pin down development time
> differences between PHP and JSP. Maybe with an atomic clock. ColdFusion is
> faster still (higher level of abstraction).
>
> IMO the only sensible basis of comparison between these HTML-embedded
> scripting languages is platform support and feature-sets.
>
> Was that a public discussion you refer to? It would be interesting to see
> what arguments could possibly have been made.
>
> Regards,
> Arved Sandstrom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Eggink
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:29 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: JSP vs PHP
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just ran into a discussion regarding PHP vs. JSP (and ASP). A claim was
> made that PHP was the better alternative as it is quicker in development
> and gives
> you a better runtime performance. I have no hands-on PHP experience. Can
> anyone explain me the benefits of PHP over JSP (and vice versa of course).
> I'm bit
> reluctant to rely solely on marketing speak.
>
>
> Thanks,
> FE
>
>
>
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