Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Najah
Hi all, we are currently in a media interview to promote this. the spokes persons are from osdc.my(community), jobstreet(HR professional), MSU (education) and Redhat(oss vendor). will update on the details later. :) Yun On 12/13/10, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: > Team > > Its take some time for

Re: [osdcmy-public] Why Do Salesmen Talk, and Coders Walk?

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
Cool :) Can start collecting now On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:05 PM, red1 wrote: > Aha! Why not we put our rants, i mean close loop thoughts into a new book? >  --- > Rantings of Open Source Minds :) > > On 12/14/10 11:15 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote: >> >> I don't think it is rant. >> >> I

Re: [osdcmy-public] Why Do Salesmen Talk, and Coders Walk?

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik red1
Aha! Why not we put our rants, i mean close loop thoughts into a new book? --- > Rantings of Open Source Minds :) On 12/14/10 11:15 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote: I don't think it is rant. I believe it is actually a close loop feedback system working Technical people (engineers, program

Re: [osdcmy-public] Why Do Salesmen Talk, and Coders Walk?

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
I don't think it is rant. I believe it is actually a close loop feedback system working Technical people (engineers, programmers) like to talk about what they are doing, and telling it to someone else, with the hope of getting feedback. This feedback usually will improve and enhance the thing tha

Re: [osdcmy-public] Why Do Salesmen Talk, and Coders Walk?

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
hi Red, good one, its a socio-psycological phenomena that is worth at least a Masters thesis! But I will also add one thing, its not how much you rant, but also how eloquently you communicate your ideas, humour, wit and clarity is important. After all, communications skills is also a important re

[osdcmy-public] Why Do Salesmen Talk, and Coders Walk?

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik red1
Boh aplogised for his rant earlier and this prompt me to theorise something here. I been busy, what else, but immersing my head into OSGI code. After about 3 weeks of code reviewing, my head really got cross-wired and yesterday was when i maxed out. I don't even want to look at the keyboard. Th

Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: What's NEW for 2011 - FREE IBM Software Career Training & 2011 Public Schedules

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik red1
On 12/13/10 4:16 PM, Boh Yap wrote: agreed Red1, I meant the 2 to be taken in the same context... expensive + proprietary != Open Src (OSDC?) philosophy May i quote from FSF's founder, Dr Richard Stallman, (since this will be googleable by his global following, i will throw in some non-e

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik red1
On 12/14/10 5:40 AM, Boh Yap wrote: 1. IT Graduate with straight A's in pre U, good GPA, did a course with all the 'correct' subjects in its syllabus. Maybe has a few proff. certs. MCSE?!, CNE... 2. Non-IT Graduate, but somehow got interested and taught himself programming. Has done a few

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
hi all, I think we got to cast our net wider or maybe deeper... our whole edu system sucks becos we are too involved in a 'paper chase' - how many A's you got, what degree you got, etc... and little on actual hands on, problem solving skills. (b4 posting this, I read thru it again and the 1st 4 p

Re: [osdcmy-public] A Malaysia Company Open Source Project (joget)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
And they are very supportive to our community. Should support them any way we can. Give and take share and caring. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:29 AM, yccheok wrote: > Came across this workflow open source project by a Malaysia company. > Quite interesting and seems growing healthy. > > http://www.

[osdcmy-public] A Malaysia Company Open Source Project (joget)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik yccheok
Came across this workflow open source project by a Malaysia company. Quite interesting and seems growing healthy. http://www.joget.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/jogetworkflow/ -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/grou

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Roger that. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:02 PM, CL Chow wrote: > one up :) > Regards, > CL Chow > "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send > OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/"; -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ F

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
OK thanks. Fazli and I will call for teh tarik session soon. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: > Consider that 1) I do "work in a industry", 2) I use open source tools 3) > and loving the tools. > Count me in > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Thanks Eric, We call for teh tarik session soon (after cuti sekolah) Im also stuck with projects delivery. Two things I may need your help. Novell to be in. and Novell opions on working with others vendors. Thanks. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: > I

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik CL Chow
one up :) Regards, CL Chow "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/"; On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: > Consider that 1) I do "work in a industry", 2) I use open source tools 3) > and

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik sweemeng ng
Consider that 1) I do "work in a industry", 2) I use open source tools 3) and loving the tools. Count me in On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte < msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I will have some vacation time coming up. > > Training...hmmm...right up my alley. Har

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
I will have some vacation time coming up. Training...hmmm...right up my alley. Haris should know.:-P How can I help? Eric On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: > Team > > Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends > (Thanks) in the industry

[osdcmy-public] Bridging the Gap Between Education and the Workplace with the Open Source Education Council (OEC)

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Team Its take some time for Yun and Fazli with the help from other friends (Thanks) in the industry to get this idea moving. We want its to be the starting point for the community to establish a good relationship with education sector and industry through council... Its a start, we need more fee

Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: What's NEW for 2011 - FREE IBM Software Career Training & 2011 Public Schedules

2010-12-13 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
agreed Red1, I meant the 2 to be taken in the same context... expensive + proprietary != Open Src (OSDC?) philosophy On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: > +1 Red1. > > But most IBM stuff are proprietary anyways. > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:13 AM, red1