Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread Ed Brenegar
I agree with Ralph's perspective below. If you need an out, say to the boss, that participants will not be in a sit-in-chairs, listen to a speech mode, and therefore will be a great disservice to his speaker. If he wants his money's worth out of the presentation, save it for a more appropriate ti

Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread Richard Charles Holloway
Chris, you've received excellent advice from so many, I hesitate to add just this thought. it sounds to me (from what you wrote) that the manager might be concerned that you've left a "free" spot in the middle of a work day. many managers want to ensure that "their people" aren't squandering tax

Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread uwe weissflog
Chris, it is my experience that injecting "stuff" from the outside into an Open Space event disrupts the free flow of thought. Therefor - I would not go along with the keynote speaker. A possibility (if what this person has to say is of value) is to let him/her speak in the space between the formal

Re: Client out of control! #1 and #2

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Herman
first, to chris, i had a similar situation earlier this year. not an intact group, but the annual meeting/conference of a state association of healthcare execs. the program was 1 1/2 days. the second half day was for workshops. the first full day was all open space...except for the lunch. absol

Re Client Out of Control

1998-10-09 Thread Leon DeKing
Dear Chris, Jay et al: Two relevant experiences from my OS Facilitation experience come to mind. #1 The Nov. 1996 annual convention of the Rocky Mountain Cohousing Association (RMCA) [now The Couhousing Network (TCN)], a Friday eve --> 3:00 pm Sunday event, on the theme COHOUSING: FROM VISION TO

Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread Michelle Cooper
Hi Chris: My feelingdefinitely no speaker. Yes call and cancel. Although I have not experienced this dilemma myself, the many stories that I have heard and read about OS indicate that mixing didactic and OS in the day, be that trying to add a speaker in the middle of OS or inserting OS int

Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread Larry Peterson
Chris & Jay: I agree with Ralph. Chris: A speaker that everyone is expected to attend in the middle of Open Space can deadly. It shifts people back into dependent, listening mode. There are no good solutions if it has to happen that day. However, the speaker could go at breakfast and then Open t

Re: Client out of control! #2!

1998-10-09 Thread ralphsc
Jay My feedback: too many rules and structures. I think: either the presentations of software go up on the board with all the other postings or they happen before or after the open space. Ralph

Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread ralphsc
Chris, Speakers are death to open space. Put another way, open space is death to speaking presentations. Others here may put things in more spiritual terms, but that about sums it up for me. I ran an OS once that had a speaker at lunch. Couldn't for the life of me convince the client to drop t

Re: Client out of control! Need help!

1998-10-09 Thread Karen McCarthy Casey
Hi - I am brand new to this list serve but have worked with OS type processes and workshops. My thinking is that you are accountable for holding the space and you will be giving that up if you allow for such a large unknown. I would want to have a conversation with the manager and secure her buy in

Re: Dead Moose Society

1998-10-09 Thread Karen McCarthy Casey
Hello Bridgit: I just read of your Dead Moose stories and I love the name. In my work (with churches) I have always talked of them as the elephant in the room, partly because even though every one is trying to talk around it they are also seeing it from their own point of view. But I do love the id