Julie Smith wrote:
> YES! Thanks for weaving it altogether, Michael.
>
> Julie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Herman
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> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.
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> > i agree with your back and forthness, meg. and ag
Judi,
I recheched the quote when I got home. The 1 John 5:6 quote reads ' The
Spirit is the truth'not the other way round - even though that might be the
same thing.
Cheers
trev
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From: Judi Richardson [mailto:richa...@akerley.nscc.ns.ca]
Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 00:58
i agree with your back and forthness, meg. and agree with julie, too. i think
the
resolution of the two views is that the back and forthness only exists from the
descended, embodied, dual place. upon making the crossing, even the split
between dual
and non-dual experience dissappaers... until
you say this beautifully, julie...
the no opposites i also understand is a state of 'no preference' and therefore
unable to make blame or judgment... the state of 'unable' being different from
an
effort to eliminate blame and judging.
also, i think the loop back to open space that you were lea
And yet the Buddhist recognition is that, ultimately, the sleeping and
awakened state are "non-dual". Not a choice of either-or, but both-and.
So in OS, and as a facilitator of OS, our work is to set the conditions,
hold the container with full presence to allow individuals to catapult back
and for
Kenoli--
Well, let's hope expansiveness becomes a habit!
I believe that the influence of our own inner states goes beyond simply
modelling the behavior we wish to encourage--which is a benefit in itself. I
believe that our own inner states help to create the energetic environment in
which others
Joelle -- Absolutely, and well said! -- Kenoli
Kenoli--
Well, let's hope expansiveness becomes a habit!
I believe that the influence of our own inner states goes beyond simply
modelling the behavior we wish to encourage--which is a benefit in itself. I
believe that our own inner states help t
one of my teachers likens it to being a kayaker on a river, working as an
individual making turns, choosing path. if that one shifts his/her
attention/awareness to the river, enough to *become* river, then some really
amazing and powerful, otherwise impossible moves, become possible. and as we
pu
I think the way we prepare for the reality that like this, is by naming our
intentions and our perception of the context. Then we try to find ways to
understand our experiences, especially the transforming ones. Words are a
partial and way of understanding, always the map, never the territory. B
I think the world of illusions IS the world of duality, of either-or. I
think the real world (the world we perceive from the awakened state) IS the
world of non-duality. But not the "both-and" kind of non-duality.
Non-duality in a different sense.
When we operate from what I am calling the illu
been good to start reading all of you all again, here on the list, since
osonos, after
a sort of a mostly-subject-line-only hiatus for me this year. so much moving
in life!
anyway, saw this bit of your message, bill, and it reminded me that i'd
convened a
session on 'letting go of ost' in vanco
It's great to hear from a pragmatist. I think your insights lean heavily
towards earlier conversations around implementation of results.
it seems to bee looking for meaning/Truth from the OST process is akin to
looking for the meaning of Life, when Life itself is the meaning.
As I understand OS
Thank you for the legend..it certainly reflects my "reality"
- Original Message -
From: Winston Kinch
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Reflections on Truth, Systems and Reality.
The creator gathered all of creation
Hi Viv:
I agree with Birgitt that starting with an Open Space can get a team off to
a great start. You need to think through who will Open the space if you are
the chair. If you have a real vested interest in particular outcomes, it
would be good if you were a participant in that first OS. The
To add to your "local administration list:
Diane Gibeault of Ottawa has been the "local administrator" for OSI Canada
for about a year, in two languages. She was in Vancouver as well. She
definitely deserves the recognition for that work.
Thanks for the summary. I think the story of the develo
The creator gathered all of creation (except us) and said, I want to hide
something from the humans until they are ready for it. It is the realization
that they create their own reality.
The eagle said, Give it to me, I will take it to the moon. The creator said,
No, one day they will go the
J. Paul --
I am tempted to spend the next hour thinking about this and
responding, it is such a rich posting, and I have to get on to some
other things. But, I can't resist a quick response.
I sense that we have been using the word "truth" in different ways in
these discussions, and I think th
Some people believe we have but two choices for defining reality. One
choice is to be awake, and the other is to be asleep.
The sleeping state is the state most of us occupy most of the time. It is
sometimes called the world of illusion. I believe Buddhists call this maya
(or is it samsara?).
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