Re: Apologiy/ How to use resources; How is Bin Laden just like the rest of us?

2001-09-18 Thread Julie Hotard
Hi, Chris I am so sorry if my previous communication sounded like I was saying that poorer people have nothing to offer. I certaninly don't believe that. Some of the poorest and most disabled folks I have personally worked with are an inspiration to me. The choices that you mention about how to

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti

2001-09-18 Thread Michaël Molenaar
Hoi Koos, Zit jij al aan de overkant van het water? Groetjes, Michaël -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]Namens Koos de Heer Verzonden: dinsdag 18 september 2001 18:40 Aan: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Onderwerp: Re: Microsoft Word is obviously b

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewish hate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 11:45 18-09-2001, you wrote: Write in large letters NYC on Microsoft-Word, choose wingdings as the format of the font, Word then tranlates NYC into brutal and disgusting sign language: Thumbs up for the killing of the Jewish Community. Does this appear on your versions of MS-WORD as well? Is

AW: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewish hate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread Hape Etzold
Dear Agneta, until now I understood NYC is a very common abbreviation for Ney York City. I don´t know why Microsoft translates NYC into hateful sign language when word-users chnage it into the font wingdings. May be coincidence. But why should NYC have a meaning in MS sign language, whereas other a

Re: Fw: The Global Great Divide (long)

2001-09-18 Thread Meg Salter
Glad you found it useful - as have I. You have certainly made it more accessible!! As for copyright - let's just treat it as "viral" information, and see what happens. I have responded to Michelle Cooper's recent posting, providing input to the Canadian National Liberal Party policy group, using t

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti

2001-09-18 Thread Koos de Heer
This is not specific to MS-Word. The font Wingdings is a special font containing just symbols. Any sequence of letters will generate a sequence of symbols when the font Wingdings is applied to it. It does not matter whether this is done in Word, or in any other application like Quark Xpress or w

Re: Fw: The Global Great Divide (long)

2001-09-18 Thread Michael Herman
many thanks for posting the don beck reference, meg. i didn't find a copyright on it, so have cleaned up the formatting and pasted it here directly. maybe it will travel faster and easier this way. certainly it's the clearest story i've seen on this whole thing. thanks again, michael -

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewishhate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread BJ Peters
Hape-- I'm sorry I addressed you as Viele in my earlier message. That's what I get for being rushed! BJ * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewish hate-messages ont...

2001-09-18 Thread Michael C. Funke
I think we shouldn't go to far with our paranoia, You can coose any combination with N and Y or even take M and Y. What about YMCA or ARMY, BERNY etc.. For any other possible distribution of the symbols in windings you could envent some word showing adjacent the two letters for the death's-head

Fw: Seeing ourselves as others see us

2001-09-18 Thread Alan Stewart
Dear Friends Here is another posting by my friend Tom Atlee, a great champion of our human spirit, which you may find illuminating, inspiring and helpful. Good to converse, with love Alan Adelaide - Original Message - From: "Tom Atlee" To: "undisclosed list" Sent: Tuesday, September 1

Re: A subtle change in the news?

2001-09-18 Thread Agneta Setterwall
In Swedens public Radio-channel1 , heard by many in whole Sweden, people have the opportunity to ring in smaller speeches over all kind of issues. This is banded, and a few days later some of them are chosen by the channal and could be heard in the program "Klarsprak ", which meens "clearly said

Re: Learning

2001-09-18 Thread Julie Smith
My dear friend, "Faith is not an opinion but a state." Paul Tillich, The Courage To Be Julie - Original Message - From: Heidi and Dan Chay To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Learning Dear Hape, Thank you for raisin

Re: Learning

2001-09-18 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Hi Julie, I laugh with love for you. You wrote: >> "Faith is not an opinion but a state." Paul Tillich, The Courage To Be << What do you mean? Others among you? Thoughts? Best wishes, Dan

Re: may we listen, live and grow

2001-09-18 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Jeff-- My heartfelt good wishes for the new year. Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http:

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewish hate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread Agneta Setterwall
Yes, it is the same in my version. Do you meen that NYC shold be New York City? I´m not familiar with that, as a perhaps ignorant swede. Agneta Setterwall - Original Message - From: "Hape Etzold" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing

Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewish hate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread Hape Etzold
Dear all, as all of you I am deeply shocked about this murderous outbreak of hatred on 11th sept. Today somebody seemed to prove to me, that this kind of hatred is so deeply rooted, that even Microsoft Software is containing hidden hate-messages. Write in large letters NYC on Microsoft-Word, choos

Re: Space Invaders? by Julie

2001-09-18 Thread Averbuch
Julie, I respect and appreciator so much the role you take in this conversation: weaving' inviting ' translating transforming connecting. Thank you for the presence you Are bringing to this list, for your Deeds and for the Words that transform. and thank you for the lessons (Thoughts) all

Learning

2001-09-18 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Dear Hape, Thank you for raising this thread about interpreting NYC=>Wingdings! Interpretations about coincidences such as you illuminated happen all the time. Not simply RE conspiracies, either, but they also are common in religious and spiritual thinking. Many of my most dear friends buttr

Fw: The Global Great Divide

2001-09-18 Thread Meg Salter
This is the most insightful, pracitcal and visionary approach I have yet seen - interweaving so many of the perspectives we have yet seen. from the Ken Wilber Integral initiative and the Spiral Dynamics people If you're interested, go to Read on at : http://www.worldofkenwilber.com (se

Re: A subtle change in the news?

2001-09-18 Thread florian fischer
dear friends, as well we have to look to the way of making news, cutting them, enlarging them, because news are an product. in the german tv 1 there was shown president bush saying ". in the old western there was a poster >wanted, dead or alive< ." and we got shocked understanding that he m

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewish hate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Hi Hape, These kind of coincidences evoke a kind of eerie feeling because we tend to think that the probability of such a coincidence is so low that it must mean something. We fail to realize "that though it is unlikely that any _particular_ sequence of events specified beforehand will occur, the

Re: How is Bin Laden just like the rest of us?

2001-09-18 Thread Chris Corrigan
I work with some of the poorest people in Canada. People suffering mental illness, AIDS, physical disabilities, racism, hunger and illiteracy. Some of them give more of themselves to their communities than is even conceivable by "richer" people. We all have different amounts of money, but we are

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewishhate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread Michael Herman
same here. quite a surprise. could be a coincidence. those three letters were almost certain to stand for something. would be interesting to find out how it came about AND i'm not sure about 'obviously bringing hidden anti-jewish messages... afterall, somebody actually has to type the letters a

Re: How is Bin Laden just like the rest of us?

2001-09-18 Thread Julie Hotard
Interesting that Bin Laden has 300 million dollars but doesn't use it to feed these starving people he's so concerned about. In that way he's very human, like all of us. Although I think it would also be safe to say that he's not a very introspective guy who hesitates to be the one to cast the fi

Re: Microsoft Word is obviously bringing hidden anti Jewishhate-messages onto our desktops

2001-09-18 Thread BJ Peters
Viele-- I do not believe there is any intentional hidden hate-message here. In the Wingding font, these symbols have been attached to these letters randomly and have been that way for as long as I've been using Microsoft Office. I believe it is a dreadfully sad and unfortunate coincidence rather th

Sept 11th and afterwards

2001-09-18 Thread Eddie Palmer
Dear all, Thanks you for all of the contributions of the last week - I was actually away from all media! I've been so touched by all the contributions, and since logging on on Sunday, have just finished wading through all of them. I was on holiday with friends, canoeing on the island of Lismore o

Re: From Paul to Julie Smith

2001-09-18 Thread Julie Smith
Dear Paul, Namaste Julie * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archiv