Re: Some reflections on OST, Bin Laden, etc.

2001-10-17 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Artur, your 2 cents worth gives me plenty of food for thought. Please keep on with your questions and comments! Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view

The Anthrax Panic (was: Re: [OSLIST] Fighting Open Space Organizations)

2001-10-17 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 03:43 17-10-2001, J. Paul Everett wrote: Another viewpoint I received today. Our media could all calm down, too. Paul Geov Parrish WorkingForChange 10.15.01 Terror news American media is doing the terrorists' work for them Over this past weekend, my country went crazy. Americans

Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 14:04 17-10-2001, Harrison Owen wrote: For 99.999% of the folks in the circle, it will be your "being" that speaks. If you can enter that circle in a state of clear presence -- as best as you can -- everything else just moves along. A good translator will help, but I find the process so intu

Re: Some reflections on OST, Bin Laden, etc.

2001-10-17 Thread Winston Kinch
Artur wrote: "...the main point I think that must be reviewed is the principle "whatever happens is the only thing that should..." I thought it was "could have" (not that this necessarily helps much, but still different I think...) Winston

Re: economic self interests of governments

2001-10-17 Thread Julie Hotard
Hi, Artur All governments "selfishly" try to act in their own economic best interests, and tare sometimes short-sighted in that area, and he U.S. is no different. I suppose the most reasonable course would be something between the generosity which the U.S. has already extended to many countries

Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Joe-- Your project sounds very exciting, and addresses an issue which is important. I've facilitated both workshops and Open Space where I did not know the language, and will second Harrison's thoughts about non-verbal information. Much of what I rely on, even in English, is body language and the

Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread john engle
hi joe, in terms of opening space in a third world country (i personally prefer the term two-thirds world country) i have some experience. i've been doing it here in haiti for about five years. there are challenges in opening space in a society which has clearly defined classes. frankly, if you

HO - Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-17 Thread Toke Paludan Møller - InterChange
HO Julia.. and thanks for your view - it inspires me. .experiencing my conscious the heart, listening deeply for meaning and acting boldly from deep within may be a way war and peace may come together as life in me and us ? those steps I am willing to take a little more every day for I

Re: A right to treat each other well (long yet worth a peruse :-) )

2001-10-17 Thread Alan Stewart
Dear Friends We have a right to treat each other well. A right, not an obligation. This idea and its underpinnings stems from my longstanding observing of what happens in open space, formally constituted or not. In space cocreated and underpinned by the p

Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread FamilyFirm
Thanks Harrison. Your thoughts give me a sense of peace and balance in the midst of my anticipation (sometimes anxiety). My limited experience has been that creating and holding the space is one of the more subtle aspects of the art. Joe * * ==

Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread Winston Kinch
Thanks Harrison for that; especially about the non verbal "space holding". A nice addition (at least for me) to ways to be "present while being invisible". I suspect it is a good idea even when you do understand the language... Winston - Original Message - From: Harrison Owen To

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-17 Thread Doris Gottlieb
Dave "What I am reminded of, however, is that placing a value on something being good or evil is a matter of perspective. Even though we view the acts of Al-Qaeda as being very evil, we must know that for them they are right from their perspective" I agree. I think what I meant is that for mysel

Re: So now what.

2001-10-17 Thread Harrison Owen
At 10:29 PM 10/16/01 -0400, you wrote: So, I would greatly appreciate anyone's wisdom about using OS in this kind of third world context. I will get a translator for when I walk the circle, etc. I think we can get enough computers, and a space. I expect that many participants will be illiterat

Re: 550 plus

2001-10-17 Thread Harrison Owen
At 12:07 AM 10/16/01 +0100, you wrote: Specific concerns centre around the melee of the marketplace; convergence/action planning; and endings. In planning for the convergence which necessitates prioritization -- I strongly urge that you use a voting software. Sticky Dots for 600 are a total mes

report for Alan from the field

2001-10-17 Thread Chris Weaver
Dear Alan and List, Thanks for the worthy peruse! ("The right to treat each other well," october 16). I find your suggestions to be most practical and useful, a delightful little nest of theory-weaving, full of wonderful quotations. You wrote: > What if we _demanded_, as the community and care