Dear Alan,
as I read your "what if" questions the second principle we put on
posters when introducing os-technology came popping up: Whatever
happens is the only thing that could have.
Another way of saying this in German is "Wenn der Hund nicht
geschissen haette, haette er den Hasen gefangen", whi
At 16:12 17-12-2001, you wrote:
I believe it is "The map is not the territory"
Thanks, Eric (also for the link)
Artur
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Thank you very much for your further explanations, Peggy. I think I will need
some time to reflect and try to digest the information. In the meanwhile I
have
one more question and some comments to further the dialogue.
At 17:14 17-12-2001, Peggy Holman wrote:
I seem to recall that you have an i
At 12:27 PM 12/17/2001 -0700, you wrote:
Anyway, what I am really interested in, is: why doing the story telling. I
know it is a hobby of Harrison and I think I could spend a lot of evenings
listening to him telling stories, but in my opinion it's not that only.
Maybe it has to do with language,
At 03:29 PM 12/17/2001 +, you wrote:
Hello:
Can someone please tell me the correct quotation in English of the
known saying from Korzybski that says that "the map is not the ..."
where "..." must be something like territory, land, ground or similar.
"territory" is the word. Reference -- "S
Michael and all,
I've lost count of how many successful open space events I've attended and
facilitated. And I've no idea how many times my clients have told stories
(gossip-related and otherwise) during programs I've facilitated for them.
But I have never consciously put the two together. Link
Harrison,
Thanks for sending along Alan Klein's questions.
My immediate thought is that if schools were organized in that fashion,
education would then be back in harmony with the natural order of the
universe.
If Alan (or anyone else) wants to check out Thomas Berry's book, "The Great
Work", th
At 23:21 16-12-2001, Alan Stewart wrote:
Hi All
This request stems from an approach to me from a person commissioned to
promote better communication among
IT people in a large corporation and their customers.
Anyone have experience in working with "geeks/nerds" ie the technical
people who creat
Hello:
Can someone please tell me the correct quotation in English of the
known saying from Korzybski that says that "the map is not the ..."
where "..." must be something like territory, land, ground or similar.
Thanks
Artur
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At 01:25 11-12-2001, Peggy Holman wrote:
After looking closely at 18 approaches to changing human systems for The
Change Handbook, my own conclusion is similar to Ralph's. What I have come
to believe is that the choice of approach has more to do with chemistry
among practitioner, method and cli
this past weekend, a number of us got together here in Washington for a
marvelous "deep-think", and amongst the many sessions was one on
Transforming Education (K-12) led by Alan Klein. He has a question for all
you folks on the LIST which follows. I have invited him to join us, but in
the event t
Sharon:
I really appreciate the clarity with which you wrote that last post. I have
worked often with highly technical people - IT, finance, actuarial, etc. -
and they are great at this stuff.
Esther
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Some days ago there was a discussion about the difference between OST and
other large scale intervention methods (what are we doing anyway by
labelling it with the term "large scale"?).
It seems to me, that the discussions on this OST forum gives me more
than "just discussions". maybe it gives a c
Alan,
You have realized the basic trap of communicating between the experts and
laymen (maybe I have created a word?).
I do not have OS experience, but you have given me a good idea.
I do think that in this case the professionals should change their viewpoint
from telling "four letter" professio
I believe it is "The map is not the territory"
http://www.general-semantics.org.uk/frontpage.html
"Artur F. Silva" wrote:
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> Hello:
>
> Can someone please tell me the correct quotation in English of the
> known saying from Korzybski that says that "the map is not the ..."
> where "..." must be som
Hi All
This request stems from an approach to me from a person commissioned to promote
better communication among
IT people in a large corporation and their customers.
Anyone have experience in working with "geeks/nerds" ie the technical people
who create
software and the hardware that runs
Artur,
Thanks for the furthering this discussion. I believe all 18 methods have the
potential to create good meetings and to profoundly transform. I do know of
example of profound change for each of the 18 methods that I looked at. I would
not consider it enough to say that I have empirical e
At 09:51 AM 12/17/2001 +1030, Alan wrote:
This request stems from an approach to me from a person commissioned to
promote better communication among
IT people in a large corporation and their customers.
Anyone have experience in working with "geeks/nerds" ie the technical
people who create
softw
Bruce and I did a 2 day intervention with an IT group - they
supported the mainframes of a large financial institution.
Day one was structured ala RTSC and day two/three was OS and
convergence. Day two was an unqualified success - and a
perfectly typical OST.
Yes the group predicted that the "qui
Harrison's remark..."The harder we try, the behinder we get" brought to mind the
Sutra of the Third Zen Partiarch
The Hsin Hsin Ming --verses on the faith mind
I am constantly reflecting on the first two lines of this great treasure of
wisdom.
"The Great Way is not difficult
for those who have
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