Re: self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-28 Thread Michael Herman
here's my short spin on these two, birgitt... 1. open space is not peace, only the opportunity to choose toward it (or not) and learn about how our choices affect others doing same (or different). it's a very long process. also, not all our yet choosing toward world peace but toward peace for s

Re: as the madness continues

2002-01-28 Thread Jeff Aitken
Harrison, I remember your first books, and your study of the Biblical stories which informed your development of the notions of "crossing open space" and the transforming process. I wonder how these notions resonate with the people you are working with, because those stories are from those lands.

Re: self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-28 Thread Jeff Aitken
Birgitt, please help me clarify your questions. I assume when you say Open Space you mean "Open Space World" as Ward put it, or the "whole enchilada" as Tom Robbins may have put it. The Universe. So you would be asking, "if the Universe is a self organizing system, why don't we have world peace?"

self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-28 Thread Birgitt Williams
Dear friends and colleagues, I don't know if I can encourage this to make it to the FAQ, however, if we are telling the world that Open Space is a self organizing system, we should be able to answer the following: "if Open Space is a self organizing system, why don't we have world peace? " "if

Re: All the non-users guide - May I read it?

2002-01-28 Thread WB-TrainConsult
No chance. I clicked the link for the download there and the server gave me: Error 404 The page you have requested has been moved or deleted Bernhard W. On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:04:23 -0600, Michael Herman wrote: >hi ken, > >the latest version of the non-guide can be downloaded from this page: >ht

Re: as the madness continues

2002-01-28 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Harrison-- Thanks for doing what you can--all any of us can do. Blessings to you, Tova, Avner, Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of

Education quote

2002-01-28 Thread Alan Klein
Harkening back to our discussions on education recently, I ran across this excerpt from "Is Sudbury Valley a School?" from Reflections on the Sudbury School Concept By Daniel Greenberg and available as the full article at http://www.sudval.org/texts/reflect.html#isaschool "The raw material is perf

Just a quote I found in Gleick's book on Chaos

2002-01-28 Thread Chris Corrigan
This appears at the beginning of the chapter on Universality in "Chaos" by James Gleick:: The iterating of these lines brings gold; The framing of this circle on the ground Brings whirlwinds, tempests, thunder and lightning. --Marlowe, Dr. Faustus There is something in here about the ritual of

Re: All the non-users guide - May I read it?

2002-01-28 Thread Michael Herman
hello bernhard, had to make a couple of quick fixes. you must have caught me in between those. try the download page again: http://www.globalchicago.net/ost/nonguide.html or directly: http://www.globalchicago.net/ost/ost_nonguide.pdf sorry for the inconvenience. m WB-TrainConsult wrote:

Re: as the madness continues

2002-01-28 Thread kenoli Oleari
Harrison -- Did you get to any of the peace demonstrations? It sounds like a growing and maturing peace movement is developing in Isreal. One event actually made it into the local mainstream paper here. There are many people here who would love to contribute to that movement with group skills.

Re: All the non-users guide - May I read it?

2002-01-28 Thread Michael Herman
hi ken, the latest version of the non-guide can be downloaded from this page: http://www.globalchicago.net/ost/nonguide.html still making final tweakings, but mostly it's all there now. give a shout if you see something to change in your writing there. thanks, m ken wrote: How may I get to

Re: Glory & Storytelling

2002-01-28 Thread kenoli Oleari
Yes. The power of being fully speaking our actual experience and how much we compromise that -- think it inappropriate, or somesuch -- and the cost of doing that, even as we know the power and significant positive consequences of "telling the truth". When we can be truly in alignment with our ex

AW: as the madness continues

2002-01-28 Thread Visuelle Protokolle
Harrison, thank you so much! the situation in the middle east is on my mind every day when the news bring new horrors, and you going there and helping to open - i am breathing deep - thank you! one of the best things i heard for a long time. reinhard VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE Kuchenmueller & Dr. Stif

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Re: as the madness continues

2002-01-28 Thread Harrison Owen
Elwin wrote: > Harrison, What can I say! Space has to exist before it can be opened...even by you! It is certainly true that trust, respect, hope (space) are in very short supply, and given the posture of the Israeli government, now supported by the Bush administration, it is

Glory & Storytelling

2002-01-28 Thread michael dobbie
Glory, if you want another view I didn't take it as a personal letter. I thought it was great. To me it just seemed to be the story that you needed to tell at that moment. The ones with those kind of meaning and power are the ones we should all somehow be able to tell... ...and it's just so o

Re: User's Non Guide - copyrights and other rights

2002-01-28 Thread florian fischer
Harrison Owen schrieb: > .being Israel trying to open a little space... which became a rather > closed today as the madness continues. My morning started with the leadership > school of the Army -- they want to open space. Then we had the bombing... harrison with tova with avner take care b

Re: ERROR! Please delete my last message

2002-01-28 Thread florian fischer
don´t worry glory i, for example, deleted it promply without reading. florian Glory Ressler schrieb: > Everyone, > I am mortified to realize that I just sent a private email intended > for Chris Weaver to the entire list!!! > I am horrified that I clogged this bandwidth with such a personal > sha

Re: AW: Copyrights

2002-01-28 Thread florian fischer
Visuelle Protokolle schrieb: > once upon a time, > > > > reinhard > you are not only a master in poetic visualization by drawing > you are as well a master in poetic visualization by words. > i like the picture. > thank you well > florian

POETRY Contest NOW Convergence

2002-01-28 Thread florian fischer
dear OSLIST ! now let me strike up the cymbels for to converge the rich harvest of 27 poems we´ve got initiated under the motto "five objects in the space of my sight" every text has a number as if it had come in. i edit it under the name of the authors because every text had been sent under the