Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 5/28/02 11:58:03 AM, ch...@chriscorrigan.com writes: << Meeting people online and then in person turns on it's head the way we interact socially. Now the last thing we do is shake someone's hand. We first get into their brain, their thoughts and feelings, often hear them in a

Re: More on Empowerment - Short

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Don, I got your point. An interesting second go for the thread. It happens quite often to me, that after critizising a word for beeing unaccurate, misleading etc. I still have to live with the fact, that for historical reasins it is THE word used by most of the people. So I redefine what it means

Re: Is the OSlist an OS setting?

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Would it not be clearer to express it by a aporetic contradiction which facilitates to not misunderstand "nobody is in charge" in a reductional logic way: NOBODY IS IN CHARGE - EVERYBODY IS IN CHARGE? Bernhard - web...@gmx.at, on 29.05.2002 at 06:02:17 (GMT/UT + 02:00) My anti-virus precauti

Re: More on Empowerment - Short

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
On Tue, 28 May 2002 11:58:33 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: Don Ferretti wrote: > I missed a lot of the 'empowerment" conversation so I'm not sure how relevant this comment is. I assume the moderator will screen it. I had to laugh..we don't have a moderator that screens postings here for relevance.

Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Hi Artur, great new thread you are opening here! Looking at the pressupositions has always marked an essential point in the development of thinking&acting traditions. A point which marks maturing in the sense of overcoming naive & naturalistic approaches. Typical examples are physics (and some of

Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Chris, Artur and all   On Tue, 28 May 2002 11:56:11 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: > Presupposition 1 - Human beings have volume! Volume certainly shows up in a chat room for example, be the sheer numbers of people.     As you write: it is numbers, and of course numbers can be to large to be ha

ottawa conference with os component

2002-05-29 Thread Michael Herman
there is a conference in ottawa canada with an os component. theme is Participation for Global Action and Change. is anyone of us to open there m -- Michael Herman 300 West North Avenue #1105 Chicago IL 60610 312-280-7838 voice 312-280-7837 fax http://www.michaelherman.com ...an invitatio

Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread Chris Corrigan
Bernard: Brilliant. What a joy to read that post! For those interested in the constantly evolving conversation about what it means to be online in the web, David Weinberger's weblog is a neat read. Find it at http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/index.html Chris -- CHRIS CORRIGAN Consultation - F

Re: More on Empowerment - Moderation and Languages

2002-05-29 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
At 08:32 29-05-2002 +0200, WB-TrainConsult wrote: Interconnecting with the pressupositions-discussion: I also thought, the moderator is just "silent", only lately I perceived, that it is just a technical moderation. I think I agree with you, Bernd, if I am right in my assumption/presupposition

Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
I'm enjoying this thread myself. Thanks, Artur. Artur wrote: > Presupposition 1 - Human beings have volume! > > (The volume implies that they can be seen by others and by oneself; > that when They enter (or leave) a room everybody will understand that > this particular volume Has entered (leaved)

Languages again (Fw: Verba Volant 29-MAY-2002)

2002-05-29 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
[Some time ago I have decided to subscribe, for some weeks, in a site that sends everyday one quotation translated in many languages.The quotations don't interest me much - the translations do. And today I have decided to resent you the "quotation of the day". Some notes: the translations are don

+ + Theme + +Election + + OpenSpace-Online Conference + + June, 9th + +

2002-05-29 Thread Gabriela Ender
Dear All, who are interested in participating in the real-time conference on June,9th Four suggestions for our conference title reached us. Thank you, dear colleagues!! In the following step we would like to invite you to participate in chosing the theme. Which theme would you personally like

Re: More on Empowerment

2002-05-29 Thread John Dicus
EMPOWERMENT 1) Who Can Empower You ? 2) Who Can You Empower ? 3) Who Can Disempower You ? 4) Who Can You Disempower ? 5) Who Can't Empower You ? 6) Who Can't You Empower ? 7) Who Can't Disempower You ? 8) Who Can't You Disempower ? The power of a question. Take care, John Dicus

Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Zeesh Joelle, I too thought you were a bouncy 30! :-Doug. Germann * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@

Re: + + Theme + +Election + + OpenSpace-Online Conference + + June, 9th + +

2002-05-29 Thread Toni Petrinovich
- Original Message - From: Gabriela Ender To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:37 AM Subject: + + Theme + +Election + + OpenSpace-Online Conference + + June, 9th + + Dear All, who are interested in participating in the real-time conference on

Announcing my Open Space weblog

2002-05-29 Thread Chris Corrigan
It is maybe not such a well kept secret, but as an inveterate surfer I come across lots of interesting sources online that intrigue me and expand my understanding of Open Space and OST. To this end, I have been keeping a weblog of sites and observations I come across at http://www.chriscorrigan.co

Re: Announcing my Open Space weblog

2002-05-29 Thread Birgitt Williams
Chris, thank you for sharing your weblog and all of the work that has gone into it. I was sitting here thinking about mentoring as I set about wondering how to get information out regarding the International Alliance for Mentoring conference out (any help from any of you would be appreciated). At

Re: More on Empowerment - Moderation and Languages

2002-05-29 Thread Nino Novak
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 11:49, you wrote: > Now the point is: when I was a little 10 years old kid, and was learning > French I came to the following conclusion: "French people can never > understand the world, as in their language they never make a verbal > distinction between what is essential

Re: More on Empowerment - Moderation and Languages

2002-05-29 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
At 22:13 29-05-2002 +0200, Nino Novak wrote: certainly you were right - in so far as French people can never _completely_ understand the world in the way you (or the Portuguese) do. But, if I may ask so - why should they? The french way of understanding the world leads them to different attitude

Expanding our now..... alot!

2002-05-29 Thread Chris Corrigan
http://www.longnow.org/about/about.htm Holy cow. Chris -- CHRIS CORRIGAN Consultation - Facilitation Open Space Technology (604) 947-9236 Bowen Island, BC, Canada http://www.chriscorrigan.com ch...@chriscorrigan.com * * == osl...@listse

Re: word from a friend

2002-05-29 Thread Larry Peterson
Tova: A word came to me from Isreal yesterday about your opening and holding space. A colleague of my wife's for a number of years, Arza, came to Toronto for a visit and plans to spend part of her Sabbatical at the Faculty of Environmental Studies. Becky and Arza were reconnecting when Arza aske

Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 5/28/02 11:38:40 PM, wb-traincons...@gmx.net writes: << Of course we can metaforically dance in cyberspace, but Me-animal is roaring with laughter at that, because there are richnesses in feelings during REAL/PHYSICAL/SOCIAL dancing, which make it really another thing. >> I a

training dates for Working With OST and for Advanced Work With OST focusing on the conscious Open Space Organization

2002-05-29 Thread Birgitt Williams
Dear friends and colleagues, as you know, I have cut way back on the trainings I am offering every year. There are now several other trainers in the Genuine Contact program, allowing me to pull back. As well, I have become very busy working with a few new organizations who are choosing to develop a

Re: Languages again (Fw: Verba Volant 29-MAY-2002)

2002-05-29 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Artur-- Thanks for the reference to this site. I am humbled by the number of languages included--and I think they only have covered Romance and Germanic languages. Having only English, a little French and Spanish, and tiny scraps of Russian, I am illiterate in much of the world. Joelle * * ===

Re: ottawa conference with os component

2002-05-29 Thread Ann Galley
Yes, I can be available. Just let me know when. I live in Ottawa, in the Gatineau Hills. Ann Galley --- Michael Herman wrote: > there is a conference in ottawa canada with an os > component. theme is > Participation for Global Action and Change. is > anyone of us to open > there m > >

Announcing my Open Space weblog

2002-05-29 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Hey Chris, I love your blog: http://www.chriscorrigan.com/osweblog. I've book marked it and will refer to it regularly. I hope you keep it up. Grins, Dan * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, u