Re: Oral Culture and Oral Preference

2002-09-19 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 9/19/02 10:35:58 AM, ch...@chriscorrigan.com writes: << Of course this is a somewhat tangential discussion to the one about literacy. Very often, illiterate learners will compensate for their inability to read by being strong in other areas, but it is often true that illiterate

Re: Spanish translation

2002-09-19 Thread Lisa Heft
Gil - thank you so much for your two-pesos worth on those OST signage translations. I really appreciate it. And I remember meeting you in the speaker preparation room at the IAF 2002 conference. It's nice to imagine a face along with your warm message of support! Take care, Lisa L i s a H e

Re: Oral Culture and Oral Preference

2002-09-19 Thread Michael Herman
...funny to have been posting an example of online proceedings, and the wiki method of capturing them (which also allows for pictures, btw), at the same time as this oral culture conversation is going on. and today, a great comment (from our very literate conference) that fits right into this oral

Re: Oral Culture and Oral Preference

2002-09-19 Thread Bernd Weber
Gilbert, What is the full Scale? And which cultures would you see as 'Oral(preferred) Cultures'? I would suppose that mediterranean people are more 'oral(preferred)' than the Germans (well, it's all also "average" thinking and there are always others of course). Having a very rich body-languag

Re: stories of results from opening space in divided communities.....

2002-09-19 Thread Chris Corrigan
Christine asked: > > Chris, I missed your PS but greatly appreciate the story. So, from > today's > vantage point do you think your perception was real or was it "just you?" > In my case, the split I was observing/suffering with was real (within me > and > also within the group) but there w

Re: OS in oral cultures - long

2002-09-19 Thread WB-TrainConsult
John, (and the others participating in this thread) thank you for being "long" in your writing. Oh, I am not at all in a hurry. I started asking the list before beeing in any situation of urgency. I want to use the time to get a maximum of discussion and thinking and understanding. My OD-tandem-

Re: Oral Culture and Oral Preference

2002-09-19 Thread Chris Corrigan
Michael Herman reported: > one leader from capetown told the conference sponsor today, > "we've been doing this open space thing for a long time in > south africa, a very long time, really... only we do it > outside, under the trees. but this is not how our > government works. now i am so

stories of results from opening space in divided communities.....

2002-09-19 Thread romy shovelton
hello dear colleagues and friends.. I would love your help in tracking down brief details of stories that show the results of opening space in DIVIDED COMMUNITIES...A note on the reason why, is below. The ideal will be to be able to give (by the end of next week) a pen picture of

Re: stories of results from opening space in divided communities.....

2002-09-19 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
Chris, I missed your PS but greatly appreciate the story. So, from today's vantage point do you think your perception was real or was it "just you?" In my case, the split I was observing/suffering with was real (within me and also within the group) but there was more to it than that because, of co

Re: stories of results from opening space in divided communities.....

2002-09-19 Thread Chris Corrigan
Thanks Christine. That story happened almost two years ago now, and it actually set me into a pretty strange spin for about six months. The major issue for me was trying to reconcile the fact that on the surface, the OST was a stunning success, and is now used on a fairly regular basis with that

Re: Director of Master's Program in Intercommuncal Coexostence

2002-09-19 Thread Meg Salter
My sentiments exactly! Meg - Original Message - From: "Joelle Lyons Everett" To: Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Director of Master's Program in Intercommuncal Coexostence > Meg-- > > I'm not qualified for this position, but find it very heartening to know that

Re: stories of results from opening space in divided communities.....

2002-09-19 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
Chris, your heartbreaking honesty causes me to take a deep breath, open my heart, and thank you for allowing all of us to learn with you. I had a similar experience last April and it truly took me months to work through all the shame, anger and regret before moving on to the deeper learning. Or p

Re: Director of Master's Program in Intercommuncal Coexostence

2002-09-19 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Meg-- I'm not qualified for this position, but find it very heartening to know that such a program exists! Thanks for sharing the information. Joelle Everett * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe

Re: stories of results from opening space in divided communities.....

2002-09-19 Thread Chris Corrigan
Hi Romy: What follows is the story of the most conflicted OST meeting I have done, the event that caused me to consider taking up goat farming. I left all the warts is. Looking back, I grin with amusement and amazement at that day, and how much learning I have done since then. Enjoy! PS This m

Re: Oral Culture and Oral Preference

2002-09-19 Thread Chris Corrigan
I remember years ago reading Edward T. Hall, the anthropologist who wrote "Understanding Culture" in the 1950s. If I recall correctly, he used the terms "high context" and "low context" to describe a continuum of cultures. High context cultures are those in which there is a tremendous amount of i

Director of Master's Program in Intercommuncal Coexostence

2002-09-19 Thread Meg Salter
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Spanish translation - one more pregunta...

2002-09-19 Thread Lisa Heft
Hola. One more thing on which I'd appreciate you Spanish speakers' input. Our theme: Strategies for Moving Our Work Forward Opportunities / Challenges Creating / Sharing Resources Spanish version, anyone? Gracias, Lisita L i s a H e f t Consultant, facilitator

Re: OSLIST Digest - 17 Sep 2002 to 18 Sep 2002 (#2002-247)

2002-09-19 Thread Gilbert Brenson-Lazan
Hi, Lisa: I´m not a native speaker, just a 30-year speaker, but here are my two-pesos worth: - - - [I say 'the law of two feet', and I also call it 'the law of motion and responsibility'] La ley de de dos pies and La le de el movimiento? La Mobilidad? y responsabilidad Sea preparado para ser

Oral Culture and Oral Preference

2002-09-19 Thread Gilbert Brenson-Lazan
Good morning, all: In my experience there are Oral (only) Cultures and Oral (preferred) Cultures, the latter being more people-oriented (versus task-oriented) on the Kluckhohn-Strodtbeck Scale, even when very "literate" and with postgraduate degrees. With both I make adjustments such as thos

AW: The Oral - Visual lives next door

2002-09-19 Thread Visuelle Protokolle
Bernd, Chris and all: Bernd, you touched me like so many others with your description of your work, of your tasks. and Chris, you have to give so many astonishing insights. you say: It seems to me anyway, that writing, >talking and sensing are all communication strategies, and while >certain cu

Re: OS in oral cultures - long

2002-09-19 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 9/18/02 1:46:19 PM, englej...@hotmail.com writes: << as you can imagine, i feel so inadequate with group such as this. its like when i work with kids who have lived on the streets of port au prince. i can't begin to imagine the pain and suffering that they have experienced. i