Human Shield - Ken Nichols O'Keefe

2003-02-17 Thread BJ Peters
This is such an awsome, inspiring action. Gandhi would definitely approve! I just had to share this with all of you. In peace --BJ Peters http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,866258,00.html * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.e

Human Shield - Ken Nichols O'Keefe

2003-02-17 Thread BJ Peters
This is such an awesome, inspiring action. Gandhi would definitely approve! I just had to share this with all of you. In peace --BJ Peters http://www.observer.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,866258,00.html * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.

SV: OST and decolonization

2003-02-17 Thread Eva P Svensson
Chris wrote: "So I'm increasingly thinking that there is no such thing as empowerment. I just don't see it being possible to empower others." Thank you for your thoughts Chris, it is the same with motivation - another people cannot motivate me, it comes from within. What we/others can do is to cr

Re: are we there yet? (long)

2003-02-17 Thread Bernd Weber
Dear John, wonderful to hear that you allready experience situations, where OS is the "natural" norm for meetings. I believed, that this such a 'de-conditioning' (see below)should be possible by OS, but did not experience it yet. 8 years of "social investment" is not little, but of course not t

Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such

2003-02-17 Thread Harrison Owen
One of the great things about OSLIST is the way conversations start at multiple points and then ebb and flow to form a common theme. Not unlike what happens in Open Space (because it is Open Space, I guess) this phenomenon appears to be but one more example of what we have been talking about. Eme

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such

2003-02-17 Thread Ralph Copleman
On 2/17/03 10:40 AM, "Harrison Owen" wrote: > the next time a client asks, "Does Open Space always work?" -- we might > answer, "Truthfully we don't really know, but it seems to have done pretty > well for the past 13.7 billion years." I am not sure that I would recommend > this approach, unless

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-17 Thread Chris Corrigan
I'm going to take a stab at playing with a bunch of the ideas raised over the last few days. I'll respond to Harrison's post below in chunks. My comments are in blue: -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen Sent: Monday, Februa

Re: are we there yet? (long)

2003-02-17 Thread Birgitt Williams
Apparently, one of the questions that was asked of Albert Einstein, was "what is the most important question for a person to answer?". He replied "to determine for him or herself whether the universe is friendly or unfriendly". I believe that all of our core beliefs, beliefs and assumptions are ro

Re: are we there yet? (long)

2003-02-17 Thread Esther .
Birgitt: Einstein was very profound in this statement. You have given me inspiration for the coaching I am doing with a client. I believe this client has been viewing the world as unfriendly and perhaps it is time for this client to become aware of this belief and explore the impact of it on the p

Update on the 2.5 day Open Space with the Katzie First Nation

2003-02-17 Thread Chris Corrigan
We had some media coverage, from a skeptical local newspaper publisher who stayed for the whole three days (my favourite kind of skeptic): >From the Maple Ridge - Pitt Meadows Bugel Volume 5, Number 13, Wednesday February 12, 2003 Page 2. Editorial: Building Bonds of Friendship When you work a

Re: are we there yet? (long)

2003-02-17 Thread john engle
hi esther and birgitt. anything that eistein said gets my attention and respect. this quote is particularly interesting and really leaves a lot of options. for instance, if the universe allows planet earth to stop functioning, this would be a very friendly thing for the tens (hundreds?) of milli

Re: are we there yet? (long)

2003-02-17 Thread Larry Peterson
A few thoughts prompted by this rich discussion: One view of the "parousia" of Christian Nirvana (heaven or whatever in Blue language the "Kingdom of God") is that it is both present and coming. It does partly relate to "invitation" (which is always there) and to "realization" which is still in a

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-17 Thread Harrison Owen
At 10:26 AM 2/17/2003 -0800, Chris wrote: This idea of grief work as a fundamental tool is interesting too. I see what you are saying Harrison, but something feels to me like that s only part of the answer. When I work with the grief cycle, the thing that people respond to is the map. They ca

Invitation

2003-02-17 Thread Judi Richardson
Hello there, To add to the thread on invitation, You can check out Joseph Campbell, mythologist’s, work via numerous books and web sites including http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/smc/journey/) Stages in The Hero’s Journey -- interesting analogy to invitation. Stage I. The Departure Stage 1. Th

Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such

2003-02-17 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Harrison-- What comes to my mind reading your report on self-organizing systems and order for free and gravity, is the little thing we have been reading about the last week or so. Something called Dark Energy. It is said to make up 73% of the universe and is the force that is causing the universe