Re: Hierarchy & where authority comes from?

2004-03-31 Thread Mike Copeland
Right on Harrison! You've struck a chord with me! I know plenty who know the rule book and always take it seriously. This is their authority: THE RULES! This has come to me of late. Where is my authority coming from? I notice that when I'm not centered (my word) I look to another or someone or s

Re: what I am prepared to engage in and what I am not prepared to engage (warning, long)

2004-03-31 Thread Nicolai
Hallo Birgitt, First, I wanted to say something about my person, as I'm quite new to the list. My name is Nicolai von Ertzdorff. I am very interested in any kind of human relationship and forms of organization, approaching to individual and group phenomenon in (inter)cultural,social, structural and

Re: what I am prepared to engage in and what I am not prepared to engage in with my energy--the archives

2004-03-31 Thread EVERETT813
In a message dated 3/30/04 1:49:39 PM, mher...@globalchicago.net writes: > and so i say again, this is not a major change imposed by secret people > in power.  it is a simple, technical acknowledgement of what we already > and always have been.  a global, public, conversation. > > michael > M

Re: what I am prepared to engage in and what I am not prepared to engage in with my energy--the archives

2004-03-31 Thread Michael Herman
a few more notes here on "searchability" -- just to be clear -- and some interesting statistics that give some good perspective, i think... * the archives searching that we are making easier is the searching using the search engine that is built into the list system itself. that is what has been

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread chris macrae
I suggest 98% of us carry on as we always have And the other 2% edit more carefully what they say if they have worries Maybe I have got these numbers wrong, but as someone who knows what goes on at least 100 listserves, yours is the most interesting, practical, communal, caring and open; and we n

Invitation

2004-03-31 Thread Gerard Muller
Dear All, For all who: - always wanted to go to the Netherlands but never quite got around to it; - left Holland with this feeling they really wanted to return but didn’t; - happen to live there or by chance or design will pass by in the middle of May and would like to participate in the next Op

Safety first ?

2004-03-31 Thread Gerard Muller
Dear All, During the 3rd Scandinavian OSonOS we had in the far east of Svenmark 10 days ago, some of us also had a discussion about safety on the OSList(s). However that one was not about whether the material was open to whoever. It was about whether the OSList(s) were a safe space. Not safe in t

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Brenda Kaulback
I just read Michael's list of how many postings there have been to Open Space - especially by some of you who are really prolific - and want to say thank you to all who contribute to this list serve. I would love it if I had more time to contribute to this list, or even to read it on a more regula

HELP!

2004-03-31 Thread kerry napuk
Dear Listerites As part of our continued work with primary and secondary pupils (223 over four events throughout Scotland and 75 teachers in parallel events), Open Futures has proposed a handful of virtual Open Space events in the remote Western Isles. We might do the facilitation by audio and/o

Re: HELP!

2004-03-31 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Radio Was used in Nicaragua Get some ham-operators they are a happy gang mmp --Original Message Text--- From: kerry napuk Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:21:45 +0100 --_-1131372377==_ma Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Dear Listerites As part of o

Re: HELP!

2004-03-31 Thread Harrison Owen
Sure - train up a bunch of facilitators at no charge provided they will go and facilitate the events at their own expense. Of course, room and board, locally provided (families etc) would make a marvelous "first experience" outstanding. Then just link all the remote sites by computer. Email will do

Re: HELP! - Remote OS

2004-03-31 Thread Gabriel Shirley
Hi Kerry, I realize the definition of "low tech" is relative -- In my world it usually means "works with commonly available technology." For other folks, it means "works without computers!" If the first definition suits you, read on... One option is BigMind Catalyst. You can see one example of t

Re: HELP!

2004-03-31 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Kerry-- Don't know what has been done in the UK for linking remote classrooms. In the US, Boise State has a center to explore the use of technology in distance education. This center include a classroom with a one-way video connection to remote schools, and two-way phone connections which connec

Re: Safety first ?

2004-03-31 Thread Chris Corrigan
Gerard: The stories about the dumb things we have done are the most interesting.take it from one who has posted his fair share of "dumb moments!" I think it adds to the reality of what it is really like to facilitate in Open Space when we talk about the hard times as well as the glorious ones. C

Re: HELP!

2004-03-31 Thread Chris Corrigan
And to add to that, Alaska Education is no stranger to OST. Getting in touch with Dan and Heidi Chay or Julie Smith would be a good place to start. They are both list members, or have been in the very recent past. Chris --- CHRIS CORRIGAN Bowen Island, BC, Canada (604) 947-9236 Consultation -

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
I think of my online list serv communications on a par with verbal communication. Things I post online are akin, in my thinking, to things I say with my voice in face to face conversations. I do not control my words once they are verbalized and I do not control my thoughts/ideas once they are po

Multiple closing circles

2004-03-31 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Hi-- Well it is sort of like multiple closing circles. About 3 weeks ago following a church dinner, about 50 members of our protestant church congregation met with the man we had called to be our next Pastor. In order to give him a sense of who we are, we did something that looked a whole lot lik

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Michael Herman
re: delete... it must be technically possible, i suppose, to delete all of one person's postings. but it would diminish us all. and it would never be able to flush out all the quotings of those messages. as we have had all these years of service for the grand total of $0.00, thanks to murli's goo

Re: Multiple closing circles

2004-03-31 Thread Michael Herman
i say, keep going! open the space for an all-day all-congregation retreat! Douglas D. Germann, Sr. wrote: Hi-- Well it is sort of like multiple closing circles. About 3 weeks ago following a church dinner, about 50 members of our protestant church congregation met with the man we had calle

Re: Hierarchy & where authority comes from?

2004-03-31 Thread Chris Corrigan
Harrison Owen wrote: No good dancer ever followed the Rule Book. They may “know” it (rules) – but then they do their dance. I am reminded of a Kpelle Chief (West Africa) who, towards the end of a major celebration where I was the “court photographer” told me it was time to “Do my Dance.” I knew

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
I've always considered this listserv as one giant open space, with the same principles and law as any OST event. My most profound experience came on 9/11 when this was the first place I posted a poem to the world. Knowing that within one hour of the horror, I was connected to many kindred spirits

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Michael Herman
have to chime in here, myself, christine... i remember how good it felt on that first day to tune in here and hear the germans right away and then so many others saying 'this has happened to all of us.' our conversations in that first month after must be a great little study that most likely neve

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
Michael, I thought it would also be quite a study and, in fact, I kept a folder for quite awhile of all the 9/11 related postings from this list...finally let go of it (delete!) about 6 months ago. With the archives, perhaps some enterprising social scientist will pick up the study :-) Christine

Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

2004-03-31 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
There is often a tone in your posts Michael that gives me the impression you are overbearing and dismissive of opinions other than your own. Is it intention on your part to be unkind? >From: Michael Herman >Reply-To: OSLIST >To: osl...

delete function

2004-03-31 Thread Therese Fitzpatrick
You derisively dismiss the idea of a delete function, Michael. I think you could disagree without ridicule. It seems like no one can post a word on this list serv that disagrees from your position in any way without eliciting an overbearing, often derisive, response from you. Recording every si